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Will unions back the Sanders/Warren plan of eliminating private insurance? -- BambooHoo 09/16/2019 07:37AM I think this is the issue that derails Sanders completely and forces Warren -- Maupin233 09/16/2019 12:40PM If: -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 1:17PM Just wait until a significant % of primary care Drs -- Moneyshot 09/16/2019 10:50AM Yeah because that never happens with private insurance. Besides for most -- Seattle .Hoo 09/16/2019 12:10PM Of course it’s happening today...the point is -- Moneyshot 09/16/2019 1:24PM I don't know how to break this to you but rich people will always get -- Seattle .Hoo 09/16/2019 2:26PM Are you missing the point on purpose? -- Moneyshot 09/16/2019 2:57PM Easy. Just make concierge practices illegal ** -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 11:54AM Maybe, but I can’t believe that would be legal. -- Moneyshot 09/16/2019 11:58AM I dunno...are the elites (from either party) going to wait with the masses? ** -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 2:18PM Oh it would most certainly be politically acceptable. "Look at all these -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 12:01PM Unfortunately, I think that’s probably right. ** -- Moneyshot 09/16/2019 1:48PM I think many think of that as the primary benefit derived from their unions -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 09:17AM I saw a UAW head supporting it a few months ago -- WahooMatt05 09/16/2019 08:12AM UAW members come out of pocket for only 4% of their healthcare costs with -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 08:54AM They might prefer it in wages. ** -- Shenhoo 09/16/2019 09:15AM Then they have to pay taxes on it. ** -- PBCHoo 09/16/2019 09:40AM Maybe...but Medicare for All will be a downgrade in quality for them. ** -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 09:19AM How so? ** -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 09:21AM Because there's not one sane person on the planet that would trade a -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 09:30AM Why? what is the difference? What do union members -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 09:34AM It's the apt comparison because Medicare wouldn't exist as is if it expands -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 09:36AM I have company supplied private insurance and every claim -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 09:41AM You know what you have now. The good and bad. You or anyone else has any -- moohoofus 09/16/2019 10:42AM Of course it's negotiated down ... but it's not fiat pricing with the gov't -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 09:49AM I've read that, but 20 years ago there was not much -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 09:57AM Exactly...Medicare for All means that Medicare would have to bring their -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 09:40AM Why would it mean that? If it’s the only game in town providers seem to -- southdenverhoo 09/16/2019 11:11AM Look at reimbursement rates for Medicare versus private insurance...how -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 09:29AM Are you saying we are giving our seniors poor quality health care? ** -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 09:33AM Jesus Christ, buddy ... this is really simple: If a given hospital has 10 -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 10:01AM Hippocratic Oath? ** -- southdenverhoo 09/16/2019 11:22AM I'm a fan of the Hippocratic Oath, but a believer in the reality that on -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 11:29AM Oath isn't taken by administrators who do scheduling, purchase equipment, -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 11:26AM Or fear of med mal? ** -- southdenverhoo 09/16/2019 11:24AM So, it's NOT that simple. For many reasons. -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 10:24AM I would love to see a study of outcomes between Europe and -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 10:37AM Basically this. Controlling for all other variables like obesity, etc, I'd -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 10:45AM Yes, I suspect that if we control to eliminate the effects -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 10:55AM I'm talking about controlling for the variables that have little to do with -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 11:06AM Of course not. Never said otherwise ** -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 11:25AM Well you sort of imply it by mocking SC's suggestion that we should -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 11:59AM Because we are digressing a bit from the original point -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 1:43PM Addressing only your last sentence: the reason to assume it might be true -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 3:24PM 1) he ain’t gonna be the nominee; 2) if supplemental -- 111Balz 09/16/2019 3:39PM Do you really think our system causes lazy fat asses to -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 11:02AM Don't Europeans generally have a better diet and a subsequently lower BMI -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 10:41AM They certainly have far lower rates of obesity. Diet is likely a part -- BocaHoo91 09/16/2019 10:47AM Regarding the UAW and their new strike, do other auto companies -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 08:50AM Be wary of “If you like your current plan you can keep it” -- BambooHoo 09/16/2019 08:42AM Does she really want to eliminate them or just give them a -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 08:01AM She and the Bern want to eliminate private insurance, and they are making -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 09:18AM If you and Charleston are correct, that is just plain stupid. I haven't -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 09:33AM To clarify, I support Medicare for all or something like that, which will -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 09:34AM Then you don't favor "Medicare for All" which mandates that -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 11:01AM Mandating an enrollment in Medicare doesn't mandate that you must -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 1:52PM I don't think you're right about that. Medicare for All Warren and Bern -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 3:10PM In the real world, if Dems win presidency, senate, and house -- DanTheFan 09/16/2019 09:57AM Until the penalty for not having insurance is beefed up significantly the -- Tuckahokie 09/16/2019 10:07AM Then it's not "Medicare for All". By definition, that's a mandate. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 09:44AM OK. I need to get my language in line with everyone else. I thought -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 09:53AM "Medicare for All" eliminates private insurance. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 10:42AM Disagree slightly. I get that for the most part it will disappear, but it -- HoosWillWin 09/16/2019 1:49PM Here is a link to an anlysis of the dem ideas. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 3:32PM I will grant you that for some period of time the insurance industry will -- hoolstoptheheels 09/16/2019 3:15PM Evidence suggests yes ... she's got a plan for everything but healthcare -- CharlestonSC 09/16/2019 09:14AM