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In term's of our relations w/ Turkey this was lose-lose

But in the long run I do see this as pushing NATO away from Turkey and vice versa which only pushes Turkey further towards Russia.

(In response to this post by hoolstoptheheels)

Posted: 10/13/2019 at 11:44AM

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