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Here's a thought: Donald Trump said the Whistleblowers were traitors ...


and should not be afforded Whistleblower protection laws. If he just kept his mouth shut, safety wouldn't be an issue. You do know the Whistleblower Law is Chuck Grassley's biggest legacy in the Senate. Even he backed the Whitleblower.

Secondly, an IG appointed by Donald Trump verified the whistelblower's testimony/complaint as credible and URGENT.

Third, the White House confirmed the Whistleblower's complaints with the release of the phone summary. They never denied it. What a bunch of IDIOTS. They also confirmed the partial transcript was kept in a high classified server. Giuliani, Pompeo, etc. were all involved in the withholding of Ukraine aid. Let's not for get the damning texts. The complaint is proving to be true.

Trump admitted to the major premise of the complaint on the White House Lawn. That's not up for debate as his biggest supporters claim the statements were just a "joke." What an idiot.

BOTTOMLINE: No one is arguing against the underlying complaint. POTUS asked a foreign country for dirt on a political rival in a future election by withholding taxpayer monies. The only real question is INTENT. Speculation is that even Gordon Sondland will admit there was a Quid Pro Quo except it was not corrupt ... whatever that means?

Was Trump really pushing Ukraine for the good of the country ... or was it a personal motive? The timeline, Trump's words / actions, Giuliani, Pence, Pompeo, Parnas, Fruman, the envoy's texts / testimonies, the withholding of documents, hiding the partial transcript in a highly classified server, etc. aren't helping. The biggest issue is providing enough cover for the Republican Senators from the public to convict Trump. Attacking the messenger and the process is just misdirection.

Instead of blaming the Whistleblower, how about questioning Trump for the incompetence that put him in this position again? Of all his faults, his stupidity scares me most. What moron thought the partial transcripts would absolve him? Trump did. That's like OJ handing over the knife to the police and claiming it was the perfect weapon.

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Posted: 10/14/2019 at 2:56PM


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  I thought we were going to hear from the "whistle blower?" -- hoothat 10/14/2019 1:49PM
  The public will not hear from the Dem donor-blower ** -- Tuckahokie 10/14/2019 3:09PM
  We have the call notes. We don’t need to. His report was confirmed ** -- WahooMatt05 10/14/2019 3:27PM
  You mean that worthless transcript? ** -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 3:34PM
  ^^^ another impersonator of an American ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 3:59PM
  Incomplete summary -- Hoodeac 10/14/2019 3:54PM
  No it doesn't. ** -- hoothat 10/14/2019 6:07PM
  But we will hear from the Trump blowers incessantly -- Hoodeac 10/14/2019 3:15PM
  Interesting thing about the blue dress...without it Monica is successfully -- Tuckahokie 10/14/2019 3:23PM
  Kind of like the whistleblower without that call memo -- wahoo138 10/14/2019 4:36PM
  Well that's relevant ** -- 81_Hokie 10/14/2019 3:47PM
  It's not...but Hoodeac brought up the blue dress ** -- Tuckahokie 10/14/2019 3:53PM
  Schiff would've made sure that tidbit never leaked. ** -- Hoodafan 10/14/2019 3:31PM
  An obscure document known as The Constitution ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 3:04PM
  Permanent impeachment attempt coup d'etat. ** -- ryno hoo 10/14/2019 2:59PM
  At what point does the coup actually happen? Can the impeachment provisions -- BonsackHoo 10/14/2019 3:09PM
  No, because there are no high crimes and misdemeanors. -- ryno hoo 10/14/2019 3:20PM
  Please stop impersnating an American here, ryno ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 4:00PM
  What is the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors? Who defines it? -- BonsackHoo 10/14/2019 3:27PM
  Obstruction of Justice fits. -- aint2Hokie4me 10/14/2019 4:10PM
  Certainly not Schiff and Pelosi nor any TDS sufferer -- TomKazanski 10/14/2019 4:03PM
  Nothing Trump has done by making America great again. ** -- ryno hoo 10/14/2019 3:33PM
  So no principled answer? Just a partisan one? ** -- BonsackHoo 10/14/2019 3:39PM
  It's a parody account ** -- wahoo138 10/14/2019 4:37PM
  You wish! ** -- ryno hoo 10/14/2019 4:44PM
  Just couldn't resist, could you?** -- Hoodeac 10/14/2019 4:50PM
  Stop impersonating an American, ryno ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 3:05PM
  The Kurd Killer in chief is running a train of impeachable offenses on the -- 81_Hokie 10/14/2019 3:02PM
  Here is how it works. Create fake whistleblower. -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 2:21PM
  Doubtful................................................................... -- Chuck Taylor 10/14/2019 3:31PM
  Here's a thought: Donald Trump said the Whistleblowers were traitors ... -- Blah 10/14/2019 2:56PM
  What happens when all the info in the report is true & verifiable? ** -- HokieDelNorte 10/14/2019 2:52PM
  What report? ** -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 2:55PM
  Whistleblower report submitted to IG. ** -- HokieDelNorte 10/14/2019 4:48PM
  It's already verifiably not true... ** -- hoothat 10/14/2019 5:44PM
  Lol. IG disagrees. ** -- HokieDelNorte 10/14/2019 6:36PM
  The IG hadn't seen the transcript... -- hoothat 10/14/2019 7:16PM
  You’re wasting your talents here. Stop hiding your light under a bushel; -- southdenverhoo 10/14/2019 2:49PM
  I'd pay big bucks (for them to take their talents elsewhere). ** -- HoosWillWin 10/14/2019 3:11PM
  Too late. That would have required you to set up a Russiagate -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 2:52PM
  There may even be people of legal age who consent to reading it. ** -- WahooRQ 10/14/2019 2:51PM
  BTW, I hear Sithie is teaching his puppy basic commands -- Hoodeac 10/14/2019 2:57PM
  What Sith's poor dog's life is really like.... -- WahooRQ 10/14/2019 3:41PM
  I'm gonna tell. ** -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 3:00PM
  Be my guest. ** -- Hoodeac 10/14/2019 3:05PM
  There may be. Have daughters? ** -- Hokieesith 10/14/2019 2:53PM
  Nebulous stories about people having shocked reactions to it ** -- HokieDan95 10/14/2019 2:43PM
  Sounds like you've got this conspiracy all figured out -- wahoo138 10/14/2019 2:42PM
  If you have a brain why won't you use it? ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 2:32PM
  The whistle blower is just the guy hoo called 911 as he drove by -- 757 10/14/2019 2:14PM
  Hopefully, this explains it. Anonymity is a very important aspect of the -- hoolstoptheheels 10/14/2019 2:11PM
  Because this is just the inquiry -- wahoo138 10/14/2019 2:04PM
  Embarrass myself because I asked a question? -- hoothat 10/14/2019 5:47PM
  I’d like to report a murder. ** -- hooshouse 10/14/2019 2:10PM
  Call a vote Nancy. ** -- Hoodafan 10/14/2019 2:02PM
  How about you stop impersonating an Americn on this boad ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 2:39PM
  Only commies leave out R's ** -- hoothat 10/14/2019 5:48PM
  What a bullshit meme that is! ** -- Seattle .Hoo 10/14/2019 2:38PM
  All they have are procedure complaints -- wahoo138 10/14/2019 2:55PM
  What else to expect from an uber Trumpist ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 2:44PM
  I'm fairly confident this vote will come before Merrick Garland's vote. ** -- JohnHoo2 10/14/2019 2:34PM
  Good. I called for that vote too. ** -- Hoodafan 10/14/2019 3:37PM
  ^^^ stoopid red herring Putin lover ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 2:07PM
  Good analysis for once ** -- BonsackHoo 10/14/2019 2:07PM
  See what happens when you try to think. ** -- HooAskedYou 10/14/2019 2:00PM
  He can’t legally. It’s all hearsay and inadmissible. ** -- BonsackHoo 10/14/2019 1:56PM
  Why would he/ she want to talk with you? ** -- WaxHoo 10/14/2019 1:51PM
  Depends on what their tune is. ** -- moohoofus 10/14/2019 1:51PM

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