The Soapbox

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If the nightmare becomes true, we have a US President ...

pushing corruption in another country to win an election while his cronies benefit financially abroad. This isn't a case where the White House overlooked the situation. It's a situation where they directed it. We lose a ton of credibility to the rest of the world. Our claim of freedom and democracy rings hollow going forward.

The worst nightmare would be Trump using $400mn of taxpayer monies to push corruption in a foreign country ... to cheat in US election. If our own President cheats in US elections, we have no credibility when pushing for free and fair elections in other countries. Let's not forget, a corrupt Ukraine is good for Russia and bad for US National security.

It doesn't stop there ... Rudy and Perry pushed our Ukraine ambassador out for illegal purposes. She was fighting corruption. That's under the direction of the White House. For what? So we can skim the earnings of the state owned gas company, Burisma? Meanwhile, our Vice President and Secretary of State do nothing.

This is as bad as it gets.

[Post edited by Blah at 10/15/2019 12:09PM]

(In response to this post by Chuck Taylor)

Posted: 10/15/2019 at 12:01PM

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