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Warren, Sanders,etc are the wolves but Democrats need candidate in sheep's -- Wahoo Ron 11/18/2019 12:27PM What was the Clinton tax? That left a surplus for GWB to blow a hole in. I -- HiwasseeHoo 11/18/2019 09:45AM Raised the top marginal rate from 36% to 39.6%. LOWERED capital gains -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:55AM And raised taxes on "well off " SS recipients' making over $30,000 a year ** -- Wahoo Ron 11/18/2019 2:00PM They taxed social security. Not sure why that's such a big deal. Social -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 2:28PM And since we're all hand-holding and raising taxes and such... -- Stimp 11/18/2019 10:06AM Agree 100%. Regarding determining the cost basis for ancient assets, -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:09AM Thanks ** -- HiwasseeHoo 11/18/2019 10:01AM You seem to be missing quite a bit here. -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 09:22AM Nope. Not missing anything. In fact I would point out that the -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:41AM If you say so. You seem to be wooshing on the smoke and mirrors/primary -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 11:19AM I probably shouldn't, but I guess I expect our would be leaders to -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 11:27AM Because this is a big chess match and right now her only real concern is -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 11:33AM What % of the population does any of this affect? If less than 5% it’s not -- HooAskedYou 11/18/2019 09:34AM 0.1% on the tax end. Basically the people who have private jets. -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 09:39AM That may cut into their attendance of Climate Change forums ** -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 09:42AM Small % of people, but a much larger % of GDP. Of economic activity. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 09:39AM Yep, I harbor no ill will towards successful people like much of this -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:51AM This attitude has always made me laugh. -- SchmHoo 11/18/2019 2:37PM Yeah, you’re right. Bernie getting saying -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 4:21PM Your complaint should be with the Bern and Warren. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 3:22PM That’s certainly the narrative. ** -- SchmHoo 11/18/2019 3:32PM It isn't a false narrative. Bern actually posted that. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 4:09PM The flip side of her proposal is the $$ goes towards working people’s -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 09:41AM Nobody thinks Warren has really covered the cost of her plan(s). -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 09:59AM It was 2% until she was forced to spell out how she'd pay for Medicare -- WahooMatt05 11/18/2019 09:03AM Slight correction. It was 2% from $50 million to $1 billion -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:13AM Imposed Medicare for all is a bad political -- Shenhoo 11/18/2019 09:15AM We should go full Canadian; its established, it saves trillions -- Quaker 11/18/2019 12:18PM Going full Canadian is a sure way to ensure the system -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 2:27PM Canadian healthcare is not very good... -- hoothat 11/18/2019 1:20PM I think that's the way to go.... perhaps also funded by an employer tax. -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:46AM There's no doubt that would be expensive. But I think if you wanted to go -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 09:11AM Would like to see a non-partisan/unbiased study on the actual costs of -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 09:16AM Successful implementation in CA or VT would be even better. ** -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 09:28AM I could see issues in Cali...but the boutique of Vermont should be a good -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 09:30AM It's such a great idea, it should be no problem to show success. CA would -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 09:34AM See I'd prefer single payer over Medicare for all. That system would keep -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 09:19AM Does that come close to paying for it? ** -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 09:06AM I think there were professionals that stated her plan did pay for it -- WahooMatt05 11/18/2019 09:14AM That money isnt yours or the govts, you don’t “pay” for tax cuts** -- TomKazanski 11/18/2019 09:40AM Revenues are already higher and growing faster than pre-tax cut but keep -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 09:31AM Source? ** -- WahooMatt05 11/18/2019 09:54AM Here's one quick summary, although not the detailed one I had linked before -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 10:14AM I've linked it before and this has been discussed numerous times. Busy with -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 10:07AM How do we expect to progress as a nation until we get even with the rich?!? ** -- ResistHoo 11/18/2019 08:37AM We spend far beyond what the rich make and have ** -- HokieDan95 11/18/2019 08:21AM The definition of rich will have to change. Good morning rich people. ** -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 08:41AM WaxHoo can't wait to STAND WITH HER. ** -- HootiesJohnson 11/18/2019 08:17AM "Stands With Fist" ** -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 08:25AM Tax reform is needed including a reexamination of the rates. If this -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 07:52AM I dunno' Seattle...much can be done with just a pen and a phone ** -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 08:27AM I think that's a complaint for Elizabeth Warren. For all the talk of her -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:12AM Well it isn't as sexy as "eat the rich" or "deport the Mexican rapists" but -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:23AM I'll take Buttigeig or Bloomberg please. Biden in a heartbeat if he -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:36AM I don’t think Bloomberg is a particularly serious candidate and, ironically -- WahooRQ 11/18/2019 09:29AM Bloomberg evidently has some sexual harassment stuff in his background -- Tuckahokie 11/18/2019 08:40AM There will be something with every candidate and none of it will sink to -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:43AM Well me too. But I'd vote for Micky Mouse over Trump. Or even Sanders. ;) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:38AM I've made the same decision for many of the same reasons. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:30AM What hyperbole are you referring to? ** -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:00AM There seems to me to be almost an allergic reaction to any tax reform -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:09AM No allergic reaction from me to ANY tax reform. Just mind numbingly -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:24AM Correct - it is tapping a populist vein. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:19AM Well hold up a moment though. There is a rationality involved here, too. -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:29AM Does it not worry you that just about EVERY country that once had -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:44AM No. The lack of fundamental fairness in the tax code does. Why do you keep -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:47AM What is unfair about the tax code. We tax income not wealth. And our -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:51AM Lots of things. I actually agree that it is unfair that a rich person -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 09:09AM OK. Couple of points. The average person who drags himself into work -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:46AM I don't know about that average. Not the average middle income person. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 12:17PM Look at the data in my post to Seattle Hoo below -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 12:26PM Yeah, but I'm not making a class-based argument. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 12:45PM Trust me, I get your point. The point I'm making is it's not the -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 1:31PM Fair points, but you exclude payroll taxes. Also, you are looking at it -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 10:10AM I don't exclude payroll taxes. In fact I explicitly address them in this -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:15AM Missed that, but still, when that is included and/or % of wealth -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 12:08PM There's "donut hole" in the, what I'll call, moderate income levels. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 12:34PM That's fine, but then we're back to talking about taxing wealth -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 12:28PM This is a very complex topic. It isn't just jealousy. There are -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 09:07AM More in taxes because they have more income to start with. That doesn't -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 09:03AM The disproportionate burden is NOT on the middle class at all -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:33AM Mostly, the complexity of the tax code itself favors the rich. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:38AM With the level of wealth tax Warren is talking about, I DO think you'd see -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:56AM People don't necessarily do anything as extreme as renouncing citizenship. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 09:02AM I generally agree... but something THIS dramatic could change that. -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:31AM For folks approaching the wealth-tax threshold... -- Stimp 11/18/2019 10:46AM Those things are the tip of the iceberg. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 1:19PM See mundane system reforms. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:40AM No fan of Warren, but is this accurate? Per a fox news example, her -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 07:29AM She's determined to vilify the wealthy and punish them as much -- Lupos 11/18/2019 07:42AM I was going to say you do understand that this sentiment is not uncommon -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 07:54AM They do need to pay their fair share in taxes, I agree. Obama -- Lupos 11/18/2019 08:11AM Well yes. But you need both carrots and rods. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:15AM That doesn't necessarily make it right. Many of Trump supporters -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 07:56AM See last year's "tax reform" and resulting deficit projections. The rich -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:01AM You realize that taxes on the middle class went down by a greater -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 10:51AM I get it, but I disagree. Yes, some individuals and corporations -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 08:12AM Lobbyists don't matter? C'mon man. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/18/2019 08:13AM Unfortunately, I agree. ** -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 07:45AM Yes. 6% of wealth. Plus 39.6% on any -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 07:39AM Isn’t that the entire point? The “wealthy” have too much and need to give -- RML Hoos 11/18/2019 09:53AM Think about the implications of that last sentence juuuuuuuuuuust a sec. ** -- Stimp 11/18/2019 10:08AM Ooops - forgot the link. Included here. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:13AM Like I said... she's doubling down on crazy. She announced last -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:46AM CNBC discussed this this morning... -- Stimp 11/18/2019 09:17AM That's what triggered my post. -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 09:59AM Hmm. I guess she needs a new campaign site webmaster. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:47AM Not according to her own website, unless you're saying there's something -- hoolstoptheheels 11/18/2019 08:05AM It's just 6 pennies. When even 2 was already stupid. ** -- Hoodafan 11/18/2019 07:44AM Well that alone changes the argument. There can be rational arguments -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 07:44AM What changes the argument? I don’t follow. ** -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 07:58AM I wasn't aware she was taxing wealth. ** -- HoosWillWin 11/18/2019 08:05AM Ahh. Ok. I thought that was pretty common knowledge. She's -- BocaHoo91 11/18/2019 08:26AM