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Was his foot on the brake or was it in park? ** -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 10:17AM It's a crime of the time, really ... -- Beerman 06/15/2020 09:53AM Police officers will likely just start letting suspects flee and not pursue -- SPYCAV 06/15/2020 10:21AM I’m starting to think that for non violent -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 10:35AM They had his car and his driver's license. They could have easily set up a -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 12:37PM I agree, but that’s not protocol. I can’t -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 12:58PM You think it's a good idea to tell a suspect, if you physically resist, we -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 1:07PM If people know resisting will get them -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 1:10PM Because intoxicated people are so logical and adept at listening -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 1:16PM That's where video comes into play. I think it's pretty clear -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 1:21PM I would argue its the job of the cop to not be a dumbass. These instances -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 1:25PM I agree too, but I'm not sure what the police did to escalate the situation -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 1:48PM How about pulling the gun? ** -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 2:59PM A little easy to say from the safety of you sitting behind your computer -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 3:24PM I think it was stupid for them to get involved in the wrestling match in -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 3:35PM Sounds like you agree with me that they should have let him go once he -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 4:02PM To clarify, I believe if it could be reasonably determined that he was no -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 5:15PM That's not how DUIs work--and it shouldn't be. ** -- VAGentleman05 06/15/2020 10:15PM Holy shit. We agree. ** -- hoothat 06/15/2020 10:31PM I keep thinking I must be missing something in this case. -- VAGentleman05 06/15/2020 10:35PM So for every DUI, the police collect the pertinent information and help -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 5:32PM He got involved in a wresting match, not them.... -- hoothat 06/15/2020 3:39PM What I see is a dead man who didn't have to die. That's indisputable. ** -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 4:59PM You are correct. Resisting arrest,stealing a taser and attempting to shoot -- hoothat 06/15/2020 5:02PM Yes, his actions were stupid. It would appear he likely has a history of -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 5:22PM I think you're a great Monday morning Quarterback. -- hoothat 06/15/2020 5:48PM That's the point. The police officer is specifically trained to keep his -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 8:05PM He pulled the gun 5th or more down the line -- hoothat 06/15/2020 8:12PM That might be a good approach ** -- SPYCAV 06/15/2020 10:45AM Video seems to suggest that there were a lot of people in line in that -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 10:47AM There was no excuse for George Floyd -- Beerman 06/15/2020 10:28AM I think there has been an emphasis on more deadly "toys" for police -- SPYCAV 06/15/2020 10:38AM *** -- ryno hoo 06/15/2020 09:00AM Wow. Liberals are awful people. ** -- ryno hoo 06/15/2020 08:59AM We should get rid of them all ** -- UVALAX121 06/15/2020 09:25AM You can’t say that again ** -- TomGlansAski 06/15/2020 09:01AM For DUIs, why not just impound their car, put them in an Uber, send them -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 08:44AM Because drunk driving is a extremely serious offense -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 09:39AM If they had successfully arrested him, in all likelihood, he would have -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 1:03PM Well yes there is actually an excuse for driving drunk and it's called -- Hooooooooooooooo 06/15/2020 10:04AM I think there should be 2 levels of -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 10:20AM I don’t think that’s right. Drunk driving kills people. It’s incredibly -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 09:19AM I don't think they have to show that. I think once he fired the taser at -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:51AM O lord ** -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 10:02AM I think you’ll be proven wrong if the facts of the case hold up. -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 10:00AM In which states is a DUI a felony? Maybe after your 3rd DUI. ** -- HooAskedYou 06/15/2020 09:36AM In NYS, a second conviction can be a felony. I thought I recalled that -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 09:48AM He can’t be charged with DUI until he goes to the station and takes a -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:14AM Believe you are wrong. Do not believe handheld tests are inadmissible but -- 81_Hokie 06/15/2020 09:53AM In Va., by statute, the PBT results are inadmissible at trial. -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 10:02AM But this happened in GA ** -- 81_Hokie 06/15/2020 10:02AM Yes, hence why I said "may be different in Georgia". -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 10:11AM OK..that explains it. So the test in the field doesn't count? ** -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:15AM No, the field tests and pbt are all just to establish probable cause to -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:20AM But failure to take them, in some cases leads to taking your license away? -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:23AM No. I think you’re confusing refusal to take the breathalyzer at the -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:29AM Thanks. Never knew that. ** -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:31AM Because it’s a deterrent to drive to the damn Wendy’s so drunk you -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 08:49AM His BAC was .108 - that's barely above the limit ** -- HptHokie 06/15/2020 09:23AM That’s between 5 and 6 shots of 40% -- BocaHoo91 06/15/2020 09:57AM Maybe alcohol affects him more than the average person because he passed -- Wahoos6 06/15/2020 09:44AM Could have had other drugs in his system (many over the counters, when.. -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:57AM Or he could have just been really tired, or even narcoleptic, and a REALLY -- Hoo TV 06/15/2020 10:50AM My college roommate got a DUI in a fast food parking lot -- WahooMatt05 06/15/2020 09:01AM Paralegal in my office said a couple of weeks ago: -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:54AM I almost put Taco Bell in my post, but I wasn’t 100% sure that was it ** -- WahooMatt05 06/15/2020 10:18AM Not trying stereotype, but Taco Bell does seem to have the inordinate -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 12:04PM No but it probably did in the future. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:03AM I’d guess the losing his license for 6 months/year likely did that ** -- WahooMatt05 06/15/2020 09:10AM I doubt it. The ticket and fines/jail for repeater, is the deterent. -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 08:55AM Do you know anyone caught drunk driving? There are basically two types -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:02AM And again, is it the night in jail that deters them, or is it the fines $, -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:07AM It’s a combination of all of those. The guy in the Wendy’s damn -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:16AM But then he needs to say you got me. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:57AM Oh, I agree. This guy seems like he was ready to turn over his car.. -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:10AM I'm not sure police officers want to have unknown passengers in their cars -- SPYCAV 06/15/2020 10:35AM For the record, you can't open the door of a police vehicle from the back ** -- Maupin233 06/15/2020 1:13PM You said it in your first paragraph -- Stimp 06/15/2020 09:23AM Good point. There is a wide variety of drunks out there. Real alcoholics -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:41AM That is a fair retort. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:14AM Agree 100%. -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 09:19AM He fired the taser at the officer. ** -- hoothat 06/15/2020 11:08AM No you would fight two officers, take their weapon, and turn it on them. -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 09:02AM Coming straight out of Schuyler crazy motherfucker named Ice Dub. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:04AM Just another example of how the goalposts have moved. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:55AM Ok, so falling asleep drunk in Wendy's drive thru while black ... -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:51AM When did the cop pull his gun? Answer that and you’ll see how dumb your -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 08:54AM While chasing the guy, he was reaching for his gun before the guy turned -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 09:22AM He had his hand on his holster and still pointing his taser at the -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:32AM Right. We can all see the video. What’s your point? ** -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 09:34AM That he didn’t take his gun out until after the man turned to shoot him. -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:57AM He was already reaching for it. The taser missed. The guy -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 11:00AM So if he shoots a gun and misses and turns around to run and gets shot -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 1:03PM He didn’t have a gun. ** -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 1:33PM If implies a hypothetical, sorry I wasn’t clear on that. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 1:39PM I have no interest in discussing hypotheticals ** -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 2:28PM LOL. ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 09:27AM It's hyperbole, dude. Too nuanced for you I guess ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 09:04AM No it’s not, it’s what a lot of people believe, and being dishonest -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:11AM So well stated. I am personally Ok with frying Chauvin and the Georgia -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:15AM Some of us think you are missing the nuance here. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:06AM And some of us are more focused on a cop shooting a man in the back -- 111Balz 06/15/2020 09:45AM Nm. wrong place.** -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:47AM Why did you add while black? Couldn't have been a white guy. ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:53AM Those cops never would have shot a white guy in that situation ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 09:01AM I'll refrain from suggesting you do exactly what he did and tell us how it -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 09:08AM No, hooda, we need a lot of things in this Country, obviously, but not -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:11AM Can't prove a negative. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 09:02AM Really? That is based on what? ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 09:01AM White guys don't have problems with cops. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:58AM Put a drunk guy in an uber that just had his car taken away? -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:46AM Yeah, just thought of that. Then, just take him home and drop him off. ** -- GoochlandHoo 06/15/2020 08:50AM Yep. That justifies killing him ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 07:53AM I don't know the whole story. Didn't he grab the officer's -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:28AM And appears he fired it at him. ** -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 09:24AM So if I reasonably believe you have a taser and are going to try and tase -- WahooRQ 06/15/2020 08:47AM You can shoot someone running away from you too ** -- EspressHoo 06/15/2020 10:54AM Could be. ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:51AM Yep. That justifies killing him. ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:30AM Usually that is the case. -- psychobilly 06/15/2020 09:19AM Maybe they should have let him drive off? ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:33AM Should have just let him run...they have his car and can easily figure out -- Tuckahokie 06/15/2020 08:40AM I don't know about that -- Don Catfishio 06/15/2020 08:56AM 20/20 yes. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:45AM The cop is paid to be rational. ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:47AM It would be lovely too see all of the "shit in my pants" -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:55AM Understood. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:49AM Right. The only other option was to shoot him in the back dead ** -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 08:36AM They should have gotten him a Frosty before he ran off. ** -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:38AM Which flavor? ** -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:46AM Hoo says that? -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:35AM Classic American take. Hasn't spent a second watching the video -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 08:38AM Is that worse than getting the Mueller report that says -- Hokieesith 06/15/2020 08:40AM ^^^ stop abasing yourself ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:43AM Keep it up with these "facts" and "logic" and this crisis will go to waste! ** -- ResistHoo 06/15/2020 07:53AM I was too. Thought initial story said he was in a parking spot. But that -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 07:49AM You're not much better a person than Klanny is, if at all. -- WahooRQ 06/15/2020 08:30AM Upset it's your pathetic lines I was mocking Little Man? Maybe don't utter -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 08:39AM No, just disappointed my alma mater purportedly let someone like you attend -- WahooRQ 06/15/2020 08:41AM Graduating from the Comm school you couldn't get into. It stings. I get it. ** -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 08:51AM 😂 sure little fella. Keep swinging upwards and feeling inadequate about -- WahooRQ 06/15/2020 08:54AM Like fraudulently billing clients for all your time spent raging here? ** -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 08:57AM So, put you down for justifiable homicide. ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 07:58AM Don’t forget trying to trick him just to get an arrest. SMFH ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 07:51AM Ha somebody pulled that line out yesterday, have to go back and look -- TomKazanski 06/15/2020 08:21AM All of this misses the point. I never heard the story told any other way. -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 08:12AM Maybe you should address the idiots here that blame the cops for -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 08:46AM I have not heard anyone assert that the cops were unaware that the weapon -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 09:14AM It’s the willingness to use the taser that’s the issue. Up until that -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:20AM Personally, I think you are pushing hopelessly against the current by -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 09:55AM Sometimes the current takes you out and drowns you. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:59AM Not this one based on what I know now. -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 10:09AM The standard has always been if you are a threat -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 10:23AM Ok, we found common ground in the notion that we should let the facts -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 10:44AM There are good reasons for this incident being declared a homicide and..... -- Chuck Taylor 06/15/2020 08:42AM He was shot after pointing the taser back at the officers, so they did not -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 08:36AM A taser is not a deadly weapon. From the standpoint of justifying use of -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 08:40AM Not according to the ACLU. -- hoothat 06/15/2020 11:14AM Not in the hands of a drunk guy aiming wildly behind himself -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 12:12PM That was a coroner's report. A shooting by another will always be ahomicide -- hoothat 06/15/2020 12:22PM I’m not saying that. A knife is a deadly weapon, and a cop can shoot -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 1:17PM He fired the taser at the officer while running away. -- hoothat 06/15/2020 1:20PM In my judgement he is innocent until he gets his day in court. -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 2:26PM I think you lack real world experience, TBH. -- hoothat 06/15/2020 2:29PM Yes, they have very tough, dangerous jobs. I think we should pay them -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 2:33PM I guess we will see. -- hoothat 06/15/2020 2:35PM It was definitely dumb. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 2:42PM Atlanta just deemed a taser excessive and deadly force to fire those cops -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 09:17AM I don’t think so. This guy was running and aiming wildly behind him, not -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 10:49AM They knew Hoo he was. He was so drunk he barely could stay awake. -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:39AM I've repeatedly said it's tragic he ended up dead from a DUI stop but at -- Hoodafan 06/15/2020 08:47AM There were plenty of eye blinks between his running and the shooting. ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:49AM Do we know the cops had already searched him? -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 08:21AM Yes. It’s in one of the videos. ** -- SixerHoo 06/15/2020 08:29AM Thanks. That seems like a pretty crucial element as to whether -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 08:33AM He should have been shot as soon as scuffle initiated -- TomKazanski 06/15/2020 08:20AM I don’t agree with that. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:05AM The “us” is the citizens of the USA. I suppose the subjects of Trumpistan -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 08:43AM I still want to know just Hoo raises a despicable scumbag like you ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:31AM Wishing death on unarmed black people. Klanny, ladies and gentlemen. He's -- WahooRQ 06/15/2020 08:29AM Disgusting. Deadly force for attempting to flee arrest -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 08:25AM He could have grabbed the gun in the melee just as easily -- TomKazanski 06/15/2020 08:27AM Could’ve, but didn’t. Thus the shooting is ruled a homicide. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 06/15/2020 08:45AM I heard Mike Brown in Ferguson brought up multiple times. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:34AM So mark you down for justifiable homicide. -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:37AM The protocol of being arrested was broken. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:38AM Breaking arrest protocol carries with it an automatic & immediate -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:42AM Not saying that. This isn't a Police murder. -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:44AM The ME's ruled death by homicide. What's the charge?** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:46AM Killing someone in self defense is considered homicide. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 09:37AM I think the issue many of us take -- wahoo138 06/15/2020 11:26AM My response to Wax about homicide was in more general terms -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/15/2020 12:58PM Manslaughter range, if it holds up. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 06/15/2020 08:48AM So resisting arrest carries with it an automatic & immediate death sentence ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:34AM Oh, yeah. You're credible. ** -- WaxHoo 06/15/2020 08:24AM I thought so. They asked him to pull into a parking spot. ** -- JMHoo 06/15/2020 07:35AM Showed a lot of restraint in waiting 30+ minutes to shoot him ** -- FTJ Mackey 06/15/2020 07:45AM