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Not good enough. They should be expelled or preferably impeached so they

can't hold any federal position again. Ted Cruz just got in for another 6 years.

(In response to this post by RML Hoos)

Posted: 01/08/2021 at 11:37AM

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There needs to be a full investigation into the US Capitol insurrection. -- Blah 01/08/2021 09:57AM

My greatest fear is that lack of consequences for many in the mob and those -- Maupin233 01/08/2021 11:18AM

Exactly. And it's not just the inauguration. Every public event is now a -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:22AM

I will agree that Trump is partially at fault, but the other agitators and -- Maupin233 01/08/2021 11:25AM

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That's what's most disturbing. The vast majority of those 75 million would -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:30AM

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I don't believe this is going away. Americans are angry. SecDef ... -- Blah 01/08/2021 11:21AM

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Also, there are reports and photos of multiple insurgents with zip tie -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:19AM

Thankful that didn't happen. Even more thankfully, if that had occurred it -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 11:05AM

A rather large majority of GOP reps voted to overthrow the election. Prior -- 81_Hokie 01/08/2021 11:21AM

I wish I could be that passé about what happened. -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 11:10AM

I am not passe - it was disgusting, awful. Just saying I am also -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 11:15AM

Do you agree that no legislator who voted w/Cruz & company later that night -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:17AM

Yes, voters should fire them all. ** -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 11:22AM

Not good enough. They should be expelled or preferably impeached so they -- JSHoo 01/08/2021 11:37AM

No, they should be voted out. That is how this works here. -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 12:06PM

Hear, hear. ** -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:23AM

There was a noose erected -- HoosQ 01/08/2021 10:28AM

C'mon, no big deal. Don't you remember the women's march from 2017 -- BocaHoo91 01/08/2021 10:46AM

I was there sporting my VSabres hat;my wife bought a PH and wore that. -- Hoobedoobedoo 01/08/2021 11:35AM

But the STORMED the capital. It was just like Wednesday. You're -- BocaHoo91 01/08/2021 12:11PM

Those people wore pussy hats ON THEIR HEADS!!!! ** -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 10:47AM

That's what I read was part of the plan. March Pence out -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:32AM

Where did you read that? Was that mainstream media? ** -- Hokieesith 01/08/2021 10:56AM

I heard way to many reports of the -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:35AM

They broke down Pelosi's door. They got directions to Schumer's office -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:44AM

I’m not trying to minimize what happened or the seriousness -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 11:01AM

There are reports of staffers sheltering behind barricaded office doors -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:08AM

I’ve seen reports of members talking to these people through -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 11:18AM

I agree on your last point. On everything else, don't let their stupidity -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:20AM

I may be naive but as stupid and crazy as the vast majority of -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 11:28AM

Well if you go back and read my original post that you responded -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 12:11PM

Well I never suggested the mob did. I said the most extreme of them may ** -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 11:07AM

Me either. How many does it take to pull it off with mob -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:47AM

Yep. A lynching takes only a couple of people to act and a bunch to cheer. ** -- 81_Hokie 01/08/2021 11:00AM

Secret service had all 3 in the tunnels before anybody got past the lobby -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:50AM

I'm sure the people who shout "Weather Underground" every time Obama's name -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 10:52AM

I'm one of those people and yeah, I am in favor of that. ** -- HAZER 01/08/2021 11:08AM

Good. I hope others are as consistent, but I'm not holding my breath. ** -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:10AM

Plenty of conservatives are pissed about what happened. -- HAZER 01/08/2021 11:14AM

I'll believe it when conservatives kick clowns like Cruz and Hawley to the -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:19AM

Luckily these fuckers are too stupid to pull it off. See Michigan too. -- Brown Water 01/08/2021 10:44AM

99% of these types usually are. Disaffected loser. My fear is some crazy -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 10:53AM

They found a bunch of functional pipe bombs -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 11:05AM

Sadly, I agree ** -- Brown Water 01/08/2021 10:57AM

Believe me with the numbers they had and arms if they wanted -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:24AM

They were looking for some names. -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:29AM

But were they willing to give their lives, not hardly, not as a group. -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:38AM

If you break into the US Capitol as part of an armed mob, you should assume -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:02AM

Thankfully there are so many tunnels under that building -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:34AM

Disagree. I didn't say they all wanted or expected that -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:26AM

Oh the hyperbole and exaggerations grow like wildfire ** -- TomKazanski 01/08/2021 11:21AM

They killed a cop. I thought blue lives mattered even to scum like you ** -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 11:32AM

And they will pay the price deservedly -- TomKazanski 01/08/2021 11:35AM

Dressing up to play war is different than actually going to war. None -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:35AM

Slight disagreement: I would say 95% useful idiots, like Elizabeth -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 10:44AM

I’ll admit there may have been a few that had a goal of taking -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:53AM

I agree with your points about widespread coordination to a -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:58AM

How does all of their planning on social media not count as widespread -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 11:48AM

Agree. Trump could not organize this terror group -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:50AM

To add: it's the guys who kept their faces covered who are the guys who -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 10:48AM

What would have been deliciously ironic is if they went Vanilla ISIS on -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 11:25AM

Guys like this -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:55AM

He looks nice. ** -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 11:03AM

Beyond chilling. Terrifying. ** -- 81_Hokie 01/08/2021 10:58AM

Exactly. Maybe just real good at cosplay; but I wouldn't bet it that way. ** -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 10:57AM

I wouldn't bet our heads of state's lives on it ** -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:58AM

Could be an innocent explanation. -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 11:07AM

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Trump also held a watch party of the MAGA raid. ** -- Guy LeDouche 01/08/2021 10:15AM

Newsweek factcheck concludes this claim is false. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/08/2021 10:20AM

Stand corrected... ** -- Guy LeDouche 01/08/2021 10:42AM

Thanks. Misinformation (or worse) -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:30AM

Yes, similar allegations were made on Twitter based on -- TomGlansAski 01/08/2021 10:24AM

Why does anyone think this is complicated? Trump is in charge of DC nation -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 10:11AM

Agree ** -- 111Balz 01/08/2021 10:41AM

I'm not going to say it until a full investigation completed. It's too ... -- Blah 01/08/2021 10:19AM

Just about every other nation in history would have marched him out back on -- VAGentleman05 01/08/2021 10:50AM

I’m going to assume exactly what RML spelled out -- DownTownHoo 01/08/2021 10:21AM

The implications of what you're suggesting are extremely severe ** -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:14AM

Not trying to enflame, but I think it is hard to interpret what happened -- HoosQ 01/08/2021 10:22AM

I'm just saying when you combine that with Trump telling them to march down -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:31AM

Plenty of questions need to be answered. -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:08AM

The Capitol Police opened the barricade for some of the traitors. -- Blah 01/08/2021 10:12AM

Well, they let them in. Why? ** -- Hokieesith 01/08/2021 10:46AM

And there’s no context to that 10 second video either, because -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/08/2021 10:20AM

The context I see in the video is people calmly standing behind a barrier.. -- Chuck Taylor 01/08/2021 10:53AM

Agreed. Looks bad but needs context -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:38AM

I agree. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. ** -- Blah 01/08/2021 10:31AM

I agree. This may be to a large part a Capitol police failure. -- Shenhoo 01/08/2021 10:23AM

I heard some ex-cop talk about that (inside) -- FfxStationHokie 01/08/2021 10:18AM

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That is a possible explanation but it does not explain taking selfies with -- TomGlansAski 01/08/2021 10:22AM

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Starts before that even. Why such a soft protection -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:02AM

There's more to the story to invoking the 25th Amendment. -- Blah 01/08/2021 10:09AM

Yup. My biggest concern with 25th amendment / impeachment now is I cannot -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 10:14AM

The Trumpanzees can’t get any loonier or more unhinged. He could, -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 10:41AM

My expectation is that the House will quickly impeach but the Senate will -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 10:32AM

They can schedule it after Georgia senators are sat then -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:42AM

It's still 50/50 w/ Pence as President Pro Tempore until Jan 20th, but -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 10:50AM

Takes 67, or 2/3 of those present. George Conway tweeted that the votes are -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 10:54AM

Sure, I meant holding the hearings. I would think censure is more likely -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 10:58AM

"Holding the hearings" is still a Mitch call, though, right? Or, (based on -- southdenverhoo 01/08/2021 11:02AM

I think one of the other senators could put a motion to vote for a hearing -- WahooRQ 01/08/2021 11:14AM

Good point but I believe several GOP would go along -- wahoo138 01/08/2021 10:52AM

It is dangerous to not have a sane leader until the 20th -- NJHoo 01/08/2021 10:16AM

I don't disagree. I just don't want it to get worse - which I also fear -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 10:44AM

As somebody said yesterday... he's not even allowed to post on Twitter but -- 81_Hokie 01/08/2021 10:42AM

But he has to be punished if for nothing else to send a message to the -- walkthecorner 01/08/2021 10:16AM

Isn't the message you were voted out of office, your party lost all -- RML Hoos 01/08/2021 10:49AM

Worst case 4 and 7 were on purpose ** -- FfxStationHokie 01/08/2021 10:02AM

I heard a report that Pelosi and Schumer called Pence yesterday to -- hoolstoptheheels 01/08/2021 10:00AM

I heard that reported too. They finally got and answer and Pence -- NJHoo 01/08/2021 10:14AM

I hope Cruz and Hawley are too. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 01/08/2021 10:17AM

I heard Pelosi herself say she had veen trying to reach Pence -- HoosQ 01/08/2021 10:13AM

So many cowards, but is any bigger than Pence? What a waste of -- HoosWillWin 01/08/2021 10:26AM

He is in a very bad place of mostly his own making. ** -- HoosQ 01/08/2021 10:30AM

Is the VP not at his residence? Fire up the detail and make a splash with -- walkthecorner 01/08/2021 10:19AM

Trolling Pelosi and Schumer til the very end. Wanted to see how long they -- 81_Hokie 01/08/2021 10:11AM

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