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757 gave the correct answer below -- NJHoo 12/06/2021 2:15PM In a medical sense, social/personal sense or economic sense?i -- Lupos 12/06/2021 10:34AM Not particularly responsive to your question, but one observation re: masks -- Stimp 12/06/2021 09:52AM The worker shortage has motivated me to put it back on. -- CavMan1 12/06/2021 10:35AM LOL you really think the business owner gives a damn? -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 10:52AM What creates your own (unjustified) perception of moral superiority? -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 11:15AM I find it hilarious that people think they're making a difference.... -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 11:27AM Most of the other selfish pricks I know have a warped sense of humor too. ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 11:32AM It's selfish for the COVID-obsessed to risk dining indoors in the 1st place -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 11:38AM Explain that one to me. How is a Covid obsessed person, just by virtue of -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 12:52PM Would love to find this unicorn you call an unvaxxed masker -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 1:17PM Ok. I guess that’s an answer to some question. Incomprehensible as it is, -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 1:48PM If not required I usually go by the employees -- WahooMatt05 12/06/2021 10:04AM And wearing if properly. Lots of chinstraps among folks out there. ** -- FrankGallagher 12/06/2021 10:06AM It's wild how this varies so much by locality. Out here in LaLa Land,... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 09:57AM It is far from 100% in NY, certainly in grocery stores. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 10:04AM I'd have to guess blanket enforcement of masks and vaccines is... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 10:22AM Yeah, I’m in NYC right now. Definitely -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:16AM It’s the new normal, IMO, although it will vary by… -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 09:32AM More dangerous than usual for the elderly, sick, -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 09:59AM Not sure who is saying "fuck em". I got vaccinated, they should be vaxed -- CAVern 12/06/2021 10:31AM The people who try to claim that covid is -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:35AM Yes we have. i'd say in 5 or 10 years we'll know long term effects very -- CAVern 12/06/2021 10:45AM My understanding is there -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 11:30AM Not even close. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 10:06AM They remain desperate to portray this virus as an outsized threat to kids -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 10:14AM It's disturbing -- I could never have imagined I'd see anything... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 10:24AM 40% of the country is obese, 17% is over -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:12AM It's not close. Your 17% figure is accurate, but... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 10:34AM Of course hospitals are still cancelling surgeries because of Covid -- Hooooooooooooooo 12/06/2021 11:13AM That’s not why they are cancelling surgeries. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 12:28PM Oh, please, please tell us why they are then. ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 4:56PM Precautions and, in some cases, staffing issues. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 5:09PM How many hospitals fired people for refusing the flu vaccine? -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 11:30AM All Frontline healthcare workers at UVA are required to get the flu vaccine ** -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 1:10PM Sounds like the Cleveland Clinic has jobs for the unvaxxed ** -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 1:18PM Sounds like once again you don’t have a clue about the only subject you -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 1:33PM How many were fired has no corrolation on the number of Covid patients in -- Hooooooooooooooo 12/06/2021 11:43AM Chef can't serve as many meals in an understaffed restaurant -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 12:06PM Ok, but the more you narrow down the -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:52AM So it would appear that Covid is more lethal than the flu by a not -- Hooooooooooooooo 12/06/2021 11:16AM It’s not hard. “COVID deaths” are inflated… -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 11:13AM Except for the fact that -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 11:40AM I can and have explained it to you on this very board… -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 12:32PM The “so what?” question is very -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 1:07PM I don’t think we have enough meaningful data to say… -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 2:20PM I think your Venn diagram is a bit off... -- Folly Beach Hokie 12/06/2021 10:20AM Right, but we’re starting with a disease that -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:31AM Agreed with one asterisk. I don't think restrictions slowed the flu -- CAVern 12/06/2021 10:51AM I agree. But travel restrictions are -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 10:57AM Ok, valid point. but covid was already firmly entrenched when restrictions -- CAVern 12/06/2021 11:01AM Yeah. I think that’s fair, although the flu virus -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 12:37PM I stared at case, H, and death curves daily just about the entire first -- CAVern 12/06/2021 1:07PM Look at the deaths in NYC which occurred -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 1:22PM Ok...yeah, when people were dying left and right, people abided -- CAVern 12/06/2021 1:37PM When covid hospitalizations aren’t impacting other medical services -- 757 12/06/2021 09:27AM When governments stop relying on the precautionary principle to set policy -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 08:34AM We are a nation that acts “out of an abundance of caution” -- 757 12/06/2021 09:40AM Yes at least for the next 13 years (see Patriot Act, Nat'l Max Speed Limit) -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:48AM Oh, the precautionary principle. Damn those precautions! ** -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 09:00AM The worst is when the precautionary principle -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 09:29AM It took more than 13 years for the Patriot Act to be replaced. -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:24AM They’ve already been largely eliminated. What planet do you live on? ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 09:32AM Planet Claire. No one ever dies there. No one has a head. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 12/06/2021 09:44AM Must be the pink air. ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 09:46AM One where localities are instituting broad vaccination requirements -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:42AM Intrusions? You anti-vaxers are a bunch of pathetic, selfish whiners. ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 09:49AM Pssst, we’ve already had that for decades -- WahooMatt05 12/06/2021 09:47AM How many businesses in Mass have ever asked for proof of smallpox vax? ** -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:49AM How long have people been saying smallpox is a hoax? ** -- 81_Hokie 12/06/2021 10:12AM Or any vax. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 09:54AM Well I wasn’t alive during a raging smallpox pandemic. ** -- WahooMatt05 12/06/2021 09:54AM How long has it been since smallpox was killing 1,000 Americans a day? ** -- SixerHoo 12/06/2021 09:51AM None recently. That one was eradicated by you know, science. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 12/06/2021 09:50AM By vaccines, and yes, vaccine mandates. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 09:56AM You mean a vaccine that's 95% effective at preventing infection? -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 10:20AM Well, I really mean a vaccine that is close to 100% effective at preventing -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 11:00AM Close to 100%? There have been nearly 4,000 breakthrough hospitalizations -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 11:34AM Indeed. As this link proves beyond any doubt. No wonder you didn’t link -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 12:08PM Oh so now we care about excluding olds and fats from mortality counts -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 1:23PM We what? How did you get any of that from my post. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 1:43PM He knows so little about this that he just goes around in circles ** -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 10:11AM To me it’s when covid starts to look like the flu. -- BocaHoo91 12/06/2021 08:32AM Your last point is a good one. There are some... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/06/2021 09:53AM This. We all want to get back to normal. -- WahooMatt05 12/06/2021 08:48AM What's normal? When we finally do get this under control, we are likely to -- Seattle .Hoo 12/06/2021 09:37AM COVID will ultimately be a big step back for US climate initiatives -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:57AM The well is poisoned alright, but not for the reasons you state. Likely -- Seattle .Hoo 12/06/2021 10:00AM It’s a good question that I’ve been wondering about myself. I think I sort -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 08:24AM For my immediate family, I'm much more worried about mental health issues -- CAVern 12/06/2021 08:43AM I thank god my sister’s kids are grown, because I think she would turn -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 08:48AM Thanks. I think i'm mostly over the hump now that my daughter is vaxed. -- CAVern 12/06/2021 08:57AM Orange Asswipe is either six feet under or in prison. ** -- ResistHoo 12/06/2021 08:07AM Oh it's going to be a lot deeper than 6' under but it will likely be orange ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 12/06/2021 11:20AM 🎅🏼🎁 for you. So don’t be naughty! ** -- 757 12/06/2021 09:15AM We wish … ** -- WaxHoo 12/06/2021 08:28AM To me, we should be there. The vaccines aren't perfect but they are good -- CAVern 12/06/2021 08:01AM 7 day moving average is presently 1,062 deaths per day. That's more than -- 81_Hokie 12/06/2021 09:24AM Are there restrictions on Broadway plays? When I say we're there, I mean -- CAVern 12/06/2021 09:35AM As far as I know, you need proof of full vaccination (which does not -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 09:53AM Gotcha. thanks. I don't view that as really restricted, since i am vaxed -- CAVern 12/06/2021 09:56AM Exactly. I find 5 hours plus in a mask to be kind of daunting. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 09:58AM Except that far too many people are unvaccinated and are going about their -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 08:07AM Yes, I am aware. I may sound like an ass, but that's on them, imho -- CAVern 12/06/2021 08:11AM Mostly it’s on them, but it’s also a little on us, because it extends this -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 08:59AM It is on you. Your booster could've gone to someone in a 2% vaxxed country ** -- jpmHoo 12/06/2021 09:26AM But it didn’t. It went to a CVS and I got it as part of the recommended reg -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 11:11AM Nope, it would have sat in the CVS (or whatever) freezer ** -- CAVern 12/06/2021 09:36AM Good news, small sample, but good news, is that the last two variants -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 09:07AM I think it would take ER lines snaking around corners for hours and hours -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 08:34AM I was in western MA over the holiday. -- FrankGallagher 12/06/2021 08:47AM Like everybody I’m not in love with masks, but I would never make a big -- hoolstoptheheels 12/06/2021 08:54AM Yeah. and, in virginia, we're going to become more risk tolerant come -- CAVern 12/06/2021 08:45AM Most everything I’ve read has focused on hospitalizations and the -- 111Balz 12/06/2021 07:55AM