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I agree it's not a compromise.

I'd vote for it and I don't view it as a bad bill, but there aren't any concessions. Like I said above I hope they do bring some compromise bills forward too. Either you get a compromise or you can make a real argument that the GOP is bent on extreme policies.

(In response to this post by Hoodafan)

Posted: 05/06/2022 at 8:10PM

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New CNN poll: 66% oppose overturning Roe, including 71% of independents. -- SixerHoo 05/06/2022 4:06PM

54% favor banning abortion after 15 weeks. -- JMHoo 05/06/2022 6:27PM

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I think 90-95% of abortions happen in first trimester -- Capital City Hoo 05/06/2022 6:42PM

That’s not unreasonable. Debatable but not unreasonable. ** -- SixerHoo 05/06/2022 6:28PM

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Is he expecting? ** -- Mr Wahoo 05/06/2022 11:08PM

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Super late term? -- hooshouse 05/06/2022 6:33PM

Exception for medical necessities of course. ** -- FrankGallagher 05/06/2022 7:33PM

I’m fine with first trimester. ** -- SixerHoo 05/06/2022 6:25PM

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But after the first trimester support for abortion drops dramatically. -- FreshHoo 05/06/2022 4:59PM

No ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:44PM

Like Seattle says below, you lie -- TomGlansAski 05/06/2022 5:22PM

You lie. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:04PM

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And you don't believe killing a baby mere seconds before it is born is -- FreshHoo 05/06/2022 11:43PM

You 100% lie that this is the Dem platform. But whatever, as long -- HoosWillWin 05/07/2022 09:02AM

"to demonize the people holding the opposing political view." Have you been -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:37PM

Captain Projections! But you don’t seem to know what that -- 111Balz 05/06/2022 6:00PM

Have you been paying attention since Trump entered the fray? ** -- HptHokie 05/06/2022 5:39PM

LOL! TDS Alert? ** -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:51PM

Nice fallback when you have no leg to stand on ** -- HptHokie 05/06/2022 5:55PM

Psst. You may be the only one that brought Trump into this thread, TDSer. ** -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:57PM

Cool story bro ** -- HptHokie 05/06/2022 5:58PM

Irrelevant ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 4:52PM

I think Roe is bad Constitutional law, but it also seems obvious that a -- fishhoo 05/06/2022 4:24PM

From a political perspective, this is a bad move for the Republicans. -- Blah 05/06/2022 5:14PM

Maybe this impacts the 2024 Presidential race but I assume if you -- walkthecorner 05/06/2022 5:26PM

My point is that this is not just a progressive issue. This one ... -- Blah 05/06/2022 5:31PM

Agree on all. I just wonder if the genie is out of the bottle -- Capital City Hoo 05/06/2022 4:59PM

Compromise is the difficult part. And neither party seems to want to help -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 4:52PM

I believe Mancin supports the bill, but won't undo filibuster to pass it ** -- CMUHoo 05/06/2022 5:11PM

Be reasonable. Do it my way. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:00PM

You think 10-15 weeks is "do it my way"? Weren't you guys telling us how -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:06PM

Wow. That’s how you read that post? You really dont comprehend written -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:41PM

You're welcome to clarify it. But of course you won't, because then you -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:52PM

Where do I reference any number in my post? Show your work. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:53PM

So No on the clarifying. Got it, Lame Shtick Troll. ** -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:55PM

YASAFT, and not bright at all. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:55PM

Go get your prunes FOS Troll. ** -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:57PM

Go take a remedial reading course, FOS moron. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:59PM

A lot of proposals are just like Europe, which they normally say to follow. -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 5:16PM

Nailed it. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:03PM

I used to think so. I've changed my mind. Legal abortion is absolutely key -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 4:51PM

My primary point is that regardless of the rhetoric or what kind of -- fishhoo 05/06/2022 5:44PM

I agree that it's possible the Court will rule narrowly for Mississippi and -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:57PM

And this is why we'll never see sensible compromise. #Today's Dem Party. ** -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 4:57PM

Despite your occasional protests to the contrary you support extremists -- 111Balz 05/06/2022 6:06PM

Now do "settled law" wrt Heller. Can't wait to see you guys scream to -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 6:53PM

Or we could stay on topic and not search desperately for a what about -- 111Balz 05/07/2022 06:55AM

How many times has Heller been upheld compared to Roe? ** -- FxHoo 05/06/2022 7:22PM

Compromise is in the middle of no abortion to full abortion -- Zhoo 05/06/2022 5:13PM

So you want war. Is that it? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 4:58PM

LOL! Wait, what? Why do you think Fish's reasonable compromise in the 10-15 -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:05PM

Are you fucking kidding me? Why don't you read some of the laws that will -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:07PM

Which part of "sensible compromise" do you think that is? Now back to my -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:08PM

Come on dude - you honestly believe you can find 10 GOP Senators to -- walkthecorner 05/06/2022 5:13PM

Maybe not. But if you put forth a reasonable bill in that 10-15 wk range, -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:33PM

Do you even know why Collins says she can't accept it? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:36PM

I know what the CNN article I linked says. And that she opposes something -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:39PM

Here's the actual text of the bill -- CMUHoo 05/06/2022 6:10PM

Even if she's wrong (again she's the one you have to convince), not sure -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 7:04PM

I agree it's not a compromise. -- CMUHoo 05/06/2022 8:10PM

Then once again you didn't read or comprehend. -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:48PM

Yes, I saw the conflicting opinions. It's up to Sen Stolen Valor to get her -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:51PM

Collins is a known liar on this topic. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:58PM

I agree with this, too. No way they hand the Ds a win. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:14PM

Again.....have you read any of the laws that are being passed? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:09PM

The topic at hand would be Fish's reasonable compromise. You were the one -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:11PM

You do realize the 'war' would be attempted by soyboy beta weaklings? ** -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 5:26PM

The war waged will be a legal battle. Probably. But I disagree with fish. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:12PM

So what short of Roe would you consider an "acceptable compromise"? -- Hoodafan 05/06/2022 5:35PM

They physically can't compromise. Look how they all believe the same thing -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 6:47PM

Roe was already an acceptable compromise. Now fish might be right about one -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:45PM

No doubt blue states would try to invade Red States -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 5:04PM

Why bother. Want nothing to do with shithole states ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 6:25PM

I told you what to do below. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:06PM

I know. I'm working on it. ** -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 5:07PM

LOL! A for effort. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 5:08PM

No one wants your blue state input in red states. Go away. ** -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 4:54PM

BullShit. You freeloaders want blue states’ $$ input. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 4:56PM

Go have your demonic pro abortion laws elsewhere! ** -- ryno hoo 05/06/2022 5:01PM

Go elsewhere to find funding for your shithole states ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 5:02PM

Sometimes ryno is funny, but I swear to God the guy is a Confederate. ;) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 4:58PM

He makes Confederates seem reasonable. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 4:59PM

Go fuck yourself, ryno. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/06/2022 4:55PM

Sounds like it could be a rough ride for GOPers for a while. What a shame. ** -- TomGlansAski 05/06/2022 4:07PM

Non-likely. ** -- WaxHoo 05/06/2022 4:53PM

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