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(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 06/30/2022 at 11:17AM

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Is this EPA ruling the death knell of all federal regulatory agencies or -- walkthecorner 06/30/2022 10:26AM

Here is the syllabus from the actual opinion. Not a "death knell" at all. -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:26PM

So the Court finds it "not plausible" that Congress granted EPA the -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:54PM

The entire point of this case is whether Congress gave the EPA authority -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 1:23PM

What you posted literally describes the states who petitioned as the -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 1:51PM

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It's just the first step to dismantling administrative law and it is utter -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 11:53AM

Past time to end the filibuster. -- DanTheFan 06/30/2022 1:17PM

Really wish we could divorce the red states. -- HoosWillWin 06/30/2022 12:30PM

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Fair point, but at least we’d have 1/2 the -- HoosWillWin 06/30/2022 12:36PM

Why do you say the FDA will lose its power? This case was -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 1:29PM

Right? Way more important that we "get Fauci." ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:37PM

That really not at all what the opinion says - congress can still delegate -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:16PM

Not what Kagan thinks.... -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:22PM

Neither the opinion nor the quote from Kagan's dissent says that -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:56PM

Yes, so the Court is taking it upon itself to force Congress to take -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 1:08PM

No, the court is saying Congress didn't authorize the EPA to do this. -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 1:17PM

Thus allowing them in their ivory tower to dismiss the potential impacts. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 1:54PM

Taken in a vacuum - do you want the Supreme court ruling based on their -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 3:31PM

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Chip at it over 10 years and it gets eliminated -- Zhoo 06/30/2022 11:57AM

Or even 50 years. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 11:58AM

It seems to be somewhat limited to this case, but more could follow -- CMUHoo 06/30/2022 10:52AM

Only skimmed, but doesn't even seem to go that far - doesn't say the EPA -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:06PM

So, in other words, the EPA is not authorized to regulate climate -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:13PM

No, not at all. ** -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:17PM

Not at all? The dissenters disagree. Once again this Court is moving to -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:30PM

How can you not apply co2 emissions and the -- Zhoo 06/30/2022 11:59AM

Doesn't say can’t regulate CO2, just that the way the EPA -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 12:11PM

And how was it wrong??? ** -- Zhoo 06/30/2022 12:27PM

Instead of putting caps on emissions based the "best system of emission red -- RML Hoos 06/30/2022 1:15PM

Or just have congress authorize the EPA to do so -- Zhoo 06/30/2022 1:30PM

Looks like the fossil fuels industry got a good return on their investment. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:15PM

This opinion is the camel's nose under the tent - more will follow ** -- HptHokie 06/30/2022 11:02AM

Likely a sad truth ** -- NJHoo 06/30/2022 11:09AM

I mean who needs OSHA, etc.? ** -- HptHokie 06/30/2022 11:12AM

Exactly. Plenty of Third World Countries do just fine without it. ** -- SixerHoo 06/30/2022 11:27AM

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Either way i'm good or anything that roots out -- Charleston Cav 06/30/2022 10:32AM

Sure. Let's leave regulation to the selfless corporations in this joke of a -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 11:56AM

Like crazy Fauci? ** -- WaxHoo 06/30/2022 10:34AM

That’s as good a place to start as any. No bureaucrat has… -- Los Angeles Hoo 06/30/2022 10:42AM

Hope you like LA smog, it may make a comeback ** -- Oregon Hoo 06/30/2022 12:08PM

Maybe not before they run out of water. Thanks climate change! ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:18PM

ON the water side - you cannot live in a desert and expect it to look like -- walkthecorner 06/30/2022 12:32PM

Particularly once the Colorado River dries up. This crisis has been coming -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:36PM

Water access is already an international problem and will only get worse. ** -- walkthecorner 06/30/2022 12:38PM

No wonder Elon Musk wants to get off this planet. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/30/2022 12:55PM

Bunker? ** -- HoodatB 06/30/2022 11:17AM

You're hopeless ** -- HptHokie 06/30/2022 10:45AM

That is total bullshit ** -- 111Balz 06/30/2022 10:44AM

If I knew how to embed .gifs here, I would embed this one -- southdenverhoo 06/30/2022 11:19AM

Seriously. He does make an OK fiction writer though, I’ll give him that. -- WahooRQ 06/30/2022 11:30AM

Here (GIF) -- Hoo TV 06/30/2022 11:23AM

I was wondering the same thing ** -- WahooMatt05 06/30/2022 10:30AM

Taken to its logical extreme … ** -- WaxHoo 06/30/2022 10:30AM

Yeah, it seems like it could be bad going forward -- WahooMatt05 06/30/2022 10:54AM

This is so much better than holding one's nose and voting for Clinton. ** -- walkthecorner 06/30/2022 10:59AM

You really think so? ** -- NJHoo 06/30/2022 11:05AM

It’s like those Magic Eye photos from the 90s. -- WahooMatt05 06/30/2022 11:25AM

Most definitely. Let's trust businesses to regulate themselves. That has -- walkthecorner 06/30/2022 11:06AM

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