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Can any attorneys weigh in on whether or not Lee is going anywhere in CHO? -- CharlestonSC 04/18/2017 07:38AM Activist judges can always go against legal opinion -- PalmyraHoo 04/18/2017 6:09PM Move it to the top of the Landmark Hotel. -- PalmyraHoo 04/18/2017 6:05PM Seems like Council is playing the stall game -- 757 04/18/2017 11:07AM Move it up the street to the Albemarle Court House, right next to Jackson ** -- Hoogle.com 04/18/2017 09:31AM I don't think it is going anywhere. This is going to be very expensive for -- Exhoolate 04/18/2017 08:38AM We can have an debate about the merits of the Lee statue... -- Hoocinogenic 04/18/2017 08:47AM Lol. ** -- Hokieesith 04/18/2017 09:25AM No more dumb than the TJ quote idiots last year ** -- dajoka004 04/18/2017 08:53AM No, it applies to him, too - he held slaves, just as Lee did -- Exhoolate 04/18/2017 08:53AM Shot in the dark here, but one helped found the nation -- VAGentleman05 04/18/2017 11:44AM For starters, Jefferson didn't take up arms against the Union. -- SchmHoo 04/18/2017 09:15AM Isn't that largely what Jefferson did via his role in the American -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 09:30AM Yes. And I would be surprised if you found a statue of Jefferson in -- BocaHoo91 04/18/2017 09:33AM Or a statue of Rommel in Germany ** -- 81_Hokie 04/18/2017 2:34PM Or Modell in Cleveland, or Irsay in Baltimore ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 2:45PM Once in awhile, I admit, you can crack me up. ** -- Mr Wahoo 04/20/2017 07:40AM Rome has an awesome monument to Hannibal. ** -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 3:04PM Apparently they had several (according to wiki) -- KCHoo 04/18/2017 4:34PM Washington is there. Jefferson was too much of a french lover -- KCHoo 04/18/2017 12:34PM Certainly true. Indeed, Jefferson is honored.... -- Seattle .Hoo 04/18/2017 1:42PM Ding ding. -- SchmHoo 04/18/2017 09:45AM But isn't the issue Lee's role in perpetuating the U.S. institution of -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 09:38AM Jefferson had no role in creating the institution. ** -- Hoocinogenic 04/18/2017 10:09AM To say that is to say he played no role in the creation of the United -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:19AM Slavery, dude. he was responding to YOUR choice of words -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:24AM The two are inseparable. ** -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:36AM What the hell are you talking about now? ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:39AM The creation of this nation and the institution of slavery are inseparable -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:42AM And there you go again. sorry i even engaged ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:44AM Seems right to me. they certainly ensured the continuation -- KCHoo 04/18/2017 10:56AM Well for one thing that is different that saying TJ -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 11:04AM He didn't say TJ created it, he mentioned that TJ had a role to play -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 11:07AM He made a direct equivalency between TJ's role in -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 11:17AM No. I pointed out the two have more in common than many, yourself -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 11:51AM No, I pointed out why they don't have enough to -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 2:20PM True...I only have historical facts to back it up. ** -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 4:24PM Exactly. ** -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 11:15AM We celebrate the good things TJ did, not the bad. What are we celebrating -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 09:50AM One could very easily argue that without Lee's role in post-war America, -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 09:58AM One could easily argue Lee's decision to fight the US contributed -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 10:08AM Bingo ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:23AM Not a good argument. ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:08AM To you, perhaps. Many others, included well respected historians, see it -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:18AM The same could be said for Emperor Hirohito. Who cares? ** -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 10:31AM Only those who wish to be intellectually honest about our history. ** -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:37AM If you want to build monuments to people who behaved well after they fought -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 10:45AM What a joke comment. -- hoothat 04/18/2017 5:30PM We're so lucky to have erudite scholars like you to educate us. -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 7:33PM No, this is when you put words in my mouth. -- hoothat 04/18/2017 7:48PM What BS narrative is it that I'm pushing? -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 8:32PM You got that from my posts? -- hoothat 04/18/2017 8:49PM Lee also behaved well before he fought for the CSA...that is why he was -- Tuckahokie 04/18/2017 10:48AM I defy you to point to any position I've given on the statue itself. I -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 10:48AM Jefferson contributed to the world. Lee did not. Who can't see that? ** -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 10:56AM Lee contributed to the world as well. Perhaps not on as large -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 11:06AM So you get a pass for owning human beings if you also changed the world? ** -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 10:59AM Not a pass but have to take into account the different mores of the time ** -- KCHoo 04/18/2017 11:14AM You don't understand, it's the degree of racism that matters in Cville ** -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 10:54AM See what otherwise? ** -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:25AM He wrote The Declaration of Independence for white people. -- Hokieesith 04/18/2017 09:20AM One led a military insurrection against the United States to protect -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 09:11AM Haven't you heard, the Civil War wasn't about slavery. No revisionism there ** -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 09:13AM Cool, sucks it took till 1863 for Lincoln to get the memo. -- hoothat 04/18/2017 5:03PM What's the revisionist part? ** -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 08:45AM Removing it and renaming it with no mention of it ever being there ** -- Exhoolate 04/18/2017 08:52AM Then the question is: What does the erection of a statue have to do with... -- SchmHoo 04/18/2017 09:25AM Removing a statue is no more revisionist than placing one ** -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 08:59AM Because this is just about removing a statue ** -- dajoka004 04/18/2017 09:03AM It is offensive to many many people who view him -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 09:26AM And they would be simpletons -- hoothat 04/18/2017 09:40AM Lee was a ferverent defender of the institution of slavery. -- Hoocinogenic 04/18/2017 10:13AM Lee could be called many things, but a "ferverent defender of the -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 5:49PM You must be a major student of history... -- hoothat 04/18/2017 4:54PM Did he? do you have a cite to any writings on it by him? -- southdenverhoo 04/18/2017 12:07PM Here's a Gary Gallagher lecture called "Robert E. Lee and the Question of -- hoodeyo 04/18/2017 1:32PM And Jefferson owned slaves. ** -- Hokieesith 04/18/2017 10:14AM If you're offended, feel free to avoid it then. If the presence of a statue -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 09:38AM Well...maybe they do...maybe its a sign of lingering racism -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:07AM If signs of lingering racism is their concern, maybe Monticello should -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 10:14AM 1) Is Monticello paid for by city taxes?; 2) Is Monticello on city property -- 111Balz 04/18/2017 10:27AM His slaves were sold after his death the settle the debts of his estate. ** -- Hokie5150 04/18/2017 11:01AM Wikipedia says he allowed two to "walk away, freed five more in his will, -- southdenverhoo 04/18/2017 12:21PM It doesn't bother me really -- but the city used a democratic process to -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 09:40AM I'm actually just tired of hearing about it. I personally can't believe -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 09:44AM Then nobody should get upset about removing it ** -- hokeyhokie 04/18/2017 09:48AM I suppose so. But those that are upset about it being removed -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 09:55AM The only people still talking about it are the "Southern heritage" folks -- WahooRQ 04/18/2017 10:35AM You mischaraterize and oversimplify the process. City council -- hoosdamayun 04/18/2017 2:06PM Feel free to move on, RQ ** -- Hooddihsm 04/18/2017 10:36AM Statue is up for sale...probably will not be bought by Washington and Lee U -- Tuckahokie 04/18/2017 07:47AM Didn't Appomattox County say they would take it? ** -- Hoogle.com 04/18/2017 09:33AM It's only for sale if they can actually sell it, right? ** -- CharlestonSC 04/18/2017 08:20AM I believe it is copper...the value of the metal might be enough to offset -- Tuckahokie 04/18/2017 08:28AM