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Initial take - I don't see any significant improvement from the House bill -- WahooMatt05 06/22/2017 2:21PM The whole thing is a joke and can't be fixed by either side. ** -- Hokieesith 06/22/2017 4:47PM They dont have to like it, just think its better than obamacare -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 3:01PM That's pretty much the guiding ethos of the GOP these days isn't it? -- Beerman 06/22/2017 3:30PM That's not even right. Dupe people into thinking that it's better. -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 3:33PM Shittier care that costs more---but TAX CUT!!!!! (primarily for the .1%) -- southdenverhoo 06/22/2017 4:14PM It still amazes me that the financially poor Trump voters can't see -- HoosWillWin 06/22/2017 5:28PM The capacity of people to vote against their own interests never ceases to amaze ** -- VAGentleman05 06/22/2017 9:40PM My wife's cleaning woman is big on Rush, Trump, etc -- NJHoo 06/22/2017 6:33PM Nothing like the 'how can you be so stupid' line of reasoning -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 5:38PM It is time that we started speaking our minds. Politeness -- HoosWillWin 06/22/2017 5:42PM It has nothing to do with being polite- its clearly not effective -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 6:23PM Stupid vs Smug??? We talking R's and D's, or Hokies and Hoos? ** -- Shenhoo 06/22/2017 9:17PM Probably has less to do with stupidity and smugness too. -- Chuck Taylor 06/22/2017 8:08PM 7 million each for the top 400 is what I heard ** -- hooshouse 06/22/2017 5:21PM But think of all the jobs they will create with that money. ** -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 5:25PM Shittier care that costs more? That's exactly what I got with ACA. -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 4:28PM And every year prior to ACA. HC spending grew the slowest in 50 years w ACA -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 5:51PM Many are quite likely in situations such as myself. Thanks to ACA, I know -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 6:04PM Well, you're probably going to end up with much worse insurance now -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 6:08PM If you ain't in the 99.9th percentile--and congratulations if you are!--any -- southdenverhoo 06/22/2017 4:42PM And those who get the tax cuts probably won't see any premium increases -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 4:57PM In other words more of the same...but at least there is a tax cut ** -- Tuckahokie 06/22/2017 4:28PM ...if you're extremely wealthy. ** -- VAGentleman05 06/22/2017 9:44PM They have no interest in improving the healthcare system. -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 3:50PM Lets take you and your ilk's word for it -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 3:44PM It cuts taxes and cuts benefits for the undeserving! -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 3:37PM Cutting taxes morally terrible? ** -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 3:51PM Not abstractly but when it is a 1:1 relationship with direct harm caused to -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 4:00PM So is govt waste morally terrible? thats a true 1 to 1 relationship -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 5:43PM Professor Elzinga used the following analogy in class which has stuck with -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 6:00PM Even in a 1:1, who has a better claim to the money, those who earned it or -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 4:15PM Who has a better claim: those who are on death's door or those who are -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 4:23PM How about those like RQ on the sex change operating table -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 5:45PM Having fantasies again, Deliverance? ** -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 10:07PM No one doubts that we all should give more and give to help others. -- RML Hoos 06/22/2017 4:27PM Purposive reasoning: Sermon on the Mount, Good Samaritan, etc. -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 4:39PM Again, individual mandates. Let's not forget the calls against -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 4:56PM Pretty conclusory statement about that being an individual mandate -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 5:07PM It is a rather strong claim to make the Christ supported taxation. -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 5:30PM Google "Render unto Caesar" ** -- VAGentleman05 06/22/2017 9:47PM Like I said, you can do some quick googling on Jesus and taxes. -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 5:57PM In other words...Jesus cares more about taxes than the sick. ** -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 6:12PM Like the Good Book says: comfort the comfortable; afflict the afflicted ** -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 7:14PM In other words, the ends justify the means... ** -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 5:58PM To more fully respond to your post, I was not making a utilitarian point I -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 6:29PM Utilitarian? Perhaps, Christian? No. At no point did Christ -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 4:26PM By same logic, it's morally terrible not to favor unlimited tax increases. ** -- Sabremetrician 06/22/2017 4:13PM There is a line-drawing problem, but that doesn't mean a line shouldn't be -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 4:21PM Right. And where the line should be drawn is merely a matter of opinion. -- Sabremetrician 06/22/2017 4:33PM Yeah moral relativism is a thing. But how far are you going to take it? -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 4:35PM In other words, dependent upon the stoopidity if the victims -- WaxHoo 06/22/2017 3:09PM Is that you Mr. Gruber? ** -- Hoodafan 06/22/2017 3:17PM LOL...Herr Gruber, the gift that keeps taking ** -- Tuckahokie 06/22/2017 3:33PM No that was the first time around as the architect said so -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 3:17PM "It's much better than Obamacare" -Sen Purdue on AHCA -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 3:06PM Anything would be better, softball question ** -- TomKazanski 06/22/2017 3:18PM Neither bill is intended to go anywhere, just cover. ** -- Lazarus 06/22/2017 2:36PM I don't think so. My prediction this bill passes by: -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 3:46PM This is EXACTLY what I think will happen, an old playbook ** -- sss 06/22/2017 9:46PM Even if it passes the Senate (which I doubt), it has to go to conf committe -- Hoo05Dave 06/22/2017 5:27PM Thats a good point. Just depends on how much the Freedom Caucus is willing -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 5:34PM This bill is not getting passed. -- Lazarus 06/22/2017 4:04PM It cuts medicaid funding slower but far deeper via slower growth index ** -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 2:26PM Also, it's really bizarre to cut capital gains taxes retroactively. -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 2:36PM They are hoping to stimulate more growth in last year's market! ** -- Beerman 06/22/2017 2:47PM Wait a minute -- wouldn't that make Obama look even better? -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 2:54PM Perhaps the goal is to increase last year's deficit to make this -- HoozOnTop 06/22/2017 3:17PM It's retroactive to Jan 1 of this year. Discussion on the logic of whether -- Hoodafan 06/22/2017 3:40PM Unless a bunch of Senators or their favorite donors realized a bunch of -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 3:23PM #Winning ** -- Beerman 06/22/2017 3:31PM Maybe that's it. I had to read it 4 times. I thought I had to be misreading ** -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 3:20PM Somebody at UChicago will get a Nobel Prize for that idea. ** -- HowieT3 06/22/2017 2:52PM You expected improvements? ** -- WaxHoo 06/22/2017 2:24PM