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HoosGuy
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In this very thread, he appears to be educating you on our system
I have enjoyed reading the thoughtful exchange between RQ, joka and Hoodafan. Try saving the snark for another occasion, if that was your intention.
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Wasn't this one of the major selling points for ACA? That we would save
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 12:15PM
Michigan Study: Drop in unpaid hospital bills
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DanTheFan
07/16/2017 8:38PM
Thanks Dan. That is good news about the drop vs pre-ACA even though
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Hoodafan
07/17/2017 10:28AM
The answer is the same answer its always been. Unless everyone is covered
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111Balz
07/16/2017 2:31PM
And everyone will need to pay something into the system
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:57PM
How exactly are you going to get residents of, let's say, Norton
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Faz d. Hoo
07/16/2017 11:13PM
Yep **
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111Balz
07/16/2017 4:40PM
Which, wrt not having enough young and healthy folks begs the obvious `
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 3:14PM
Maybe the 3x cap should be re-calibrated. I agree that the key
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111Balz
07/16/2017 4:46PM
The 3X cap was nice in theory in that you pay more when young and healthy
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 5:08PM
Whether 3x or 5x the key is that the upper end MUST be affordable
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111Balz
07/16/2017 8:39PM
The upper end will never be affordable. That isn't how health care works.
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Faz d. Hoo
07/16/2017 11:32PM
That proviso was built to counteract the stereotype of the recent graduate
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HowieT3
07/16/2017 7:22PM
The first of the baby boomer surge are entering their seventh decade...with
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Tuckahokie
07/16/2017 3:50PM
This is all because the GOP sabotaged the program **
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Tuckahokie
07/16/2017 12:20PM
It might have something to do with the GA refusing to expand Medicaid, no? **
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southdenverhoo
07/16/2017 12:36PM
Yes, and from a provider perspective, Medicaid covers less cost
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111Balz
07/16/2017 2:32PM
Not to mention states that refuse to run their own ACA exchanges. **
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 12:55PM
You've made that comment many times so please educate me. Why does that
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 1:09PM
A bit dated now, but a Pew study on the subject.
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 1:20PM
A bit more current
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 1:24PM
Thanks for both of those. And BTW I would not use the "it's dated" method
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 2:06PM
I wouldn't count on RQ to understand much
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 1:14PM
You may be a doctor, but you are policy and politically illiterate. **
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 1:22PM
To answer your post below
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 1:52PM
Thanks, but that doesn't really answer the question.
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 2:00PM
FWIW, and I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the states that didn't
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 2:31PM
Refusing to start down an unsustainable path is not an argument that
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Hokie5150
07/16/2017 2:12PM
What joka is calling "unsustainable" was, ironically, a pre-existing
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 2:22PM
It absolutely was
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 2:35PM
Perhaps, but refusing to expand Medicaid (at 100% federal funding through
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 2:50PM
The negative is the feasibility
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 3:16PM
There you go again, all persuasive & logical & shit... **
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southdenverhoo
07/16/2017 1:26PM
All well and good, but when it comes to dealing with trolls
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WahooRQ
07/16/2017 1:34PM
As opposed to dajoka's post? Garbage in, garbage out. **
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 1:33PM
In this very thread, he appears to be educating you on our system
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HoosGuy
07/16/2017 3:26PM
If more people are being insured because of the ACA than before this
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Tuckahokie
07/16/2017 12:41PM
Correct. And even with expanded Medicaid, that would add to the
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 1:00PM
Increase is result of change by the hospital.
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DanTheFan
07/16/2017 12:54PM
Hence why I made the comment about fungible. But as I understood it, that
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 1:05PM
The other two had increase of 1-1.5%
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DanTheFan
07/16/2017 2:56PM
Yet you and others kept telling us we had to pass ACA because we
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 3:08PM
Has anything happened they promised? Of course not, this is just
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TomKazanski
07/17/2017 10:02AM
You have to have providers to get these people care
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 1:12PM
Absolutely! And one of the biggest problems with ACA (and
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 1:22PM
Why wouldn't supply and demand principals lead to more supply **
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 1:48PM
In addition to the medical school / residency bottleneck issues
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BocaHoo91
07/17/2017 07:23AM
Medicaid pays substantially less than Medicare. That's why you don't see
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Hoodafan
07/17/2017 10:45AM
The doctor bottleneck is caused by the professional union but supply of
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KCHoo
07/17/2017 10:19AM
I know it hasn't, at least not anywhere near enough. And that's what I was
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 2:18PM
Markets don't adjust instantly. Especially when training is required.
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:35PM
For Medicaid patients, it's my understanding it is. Or at minimum less
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 2:50PM
Well that is very different from the statement you made.
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:55PM
Not different at all. Supply was not increased dramatically enough to match
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 3:01PM
Medical school spots have to align with residency positions
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 2:32PM
Thanks! I knew there was a bottleneck in the supply chain even if
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 2:45PM
What incentive is there for physician supply to increase?
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 1:59PM
More overall available money to be made from increased
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:04PM
Why would I want to take on new, complicated patients that pay less?
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 2:24PM
You wouldn't. Which is why the principles of supply and demand should
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:32PM
Do you know what physician oversight entails?
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 2:39PM
Yes. And over time the years without treatment issue would
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 2:51PM
Your train of thought may apply to other businesses
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 3:22PM
Why wouldn't it still apply for healthcare? Seems to me it's because we put
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Hoodafan
07/16/2017 3:38PM
The money paid doesn't meet the providers' compensation
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Hokie5150
07/16/2017 2:15PM
Because of governmental interference in the marketplace. **
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Hokie5150
07/16/2017 1:52PM
How so. **
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KCHoo
07/16/2017 1:55PM
See my above post **
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dajoka004
07/16/2017 1:59PM
Exactly. **
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Hokie5150
07/16/2017 2:13PM
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