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How in the world did someone kill 27 people...in Texas -- Tafkam Hokie 11/07/2017 8:28PM Didn't change after Sandy Hook, isn't changing now -- Beerman 11/07/2017 10:09AM Dems shouldn't let this issue go -- WahooMatt05 11/07/2017 10:36AM Meh. It's a nonstarter -- Beerman 11/07/2017 11:06AM Rambo fantasies, these people have been trained to fear. ** -- Hooddihsm 11/07/2017 11:11AM That doesn't sound terribly practical to me. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/07/2017 10:56AM There are controls, and there are compensating controls -- WahooMatt05 11/07/2017 11:09AM And how has that worked out so far? -- Faz d. Hoo 11/07/2017 10:52AM I'm willing to bet 40% of the country couldn't define liberal or -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 11:03AM Label it however you want. Doesn't change the reality of the situation. ** -- Faz d. Hoo 11/07/2017 11:38AM Okay. What have Republicans done? -- WahooMatt05 11/07/2017 11:00AM "Look how bad the other guy is" is not leadership -- Faz d. Hoo 11/07/2017 11:36AM Yes, and even if the Air Force hadn't messed things up, he could -- HoosWillWin 11/07/2017 10:30AM Exactly, the gun show loophole means the Air Force didn't cause this -- graycalhoo 11/07/2017 10:33AM That loophole, and the large capacity magazine -- NJHoo 11/07/2017 10:59AM The Air Force really messed this one up. I imagine this -- Hokieesith 11/07/2017 09:52AM Agree on the screw up, but he likely would've found a way ** -- SPYCAV 11/07/2017 10:31AM Yep...they screwed the pooch big time. ** -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 10:08AM Lots of private purchase opportunities -- NJHoo 11/07/2017 10:27AM That's one thing I didn't understand Obama's approach, private sales. Why -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:52AM It's harder to buy pseudoephedrine ** -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 08:47AM In meth lab production quantities maybe... -- CharlestonSC 11/07/2017 09:25AM 33,599 gun-related deaths in 2014, only 17,000 deaths from illicit (link) -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 09:55AM Not to nitpick, but 21K of those were suicides. -- Tafkam Hokie 11/07/2017 8:51PM Left out below. Still more gun deaths than meth deaths, not that that -- Hoo TV 11/08/2017 12:00AM Why single out illicit drugs? Drug(legal and otherwise) induced deaths -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 10:11AM Same reason they always include suicides in gun deaths. Not looking for -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:16AM Because the claim/bet was meth? And illicit drugs include meth. Why -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 10:15AM By the same token, though,why include intentional suicides in the -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 10:20AM Only 55% of all deaths related to illicit drugs are are attributed to meth -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 10:35AM Because studies have been done indicating that a -- 111Balz 11/07/2017 10:27AM My son's best friend was one of those -- NJHoo 11/07/2017 10:41AM That is terrible ** -- 111Balz 11/07/2017 8:51PM That, too. But apparently the entire thread is only about semi-automatic -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 10:37AM How many of those gun deaths were semi-auto rifles? -- CharlestonSC 11/07/2017 10:02AM In 2011, there were 323 with rifles of any sort (link). Semi-auto rifles -- JMHoo 11/07/2017 10:10AM 248 with rifles of any sort in 2014 (link) -- JMHoo 11/07/2017 10:57AM They are a bit awkward for shooting one's self; handguns are much easier ** -- 111Balz 11/07/2017 11:09AM Far too many. Isn't meth illegal? ** -- 111Balz 11/07/2017 10:03AM How about with the person who fired the shots? -- Exhoolate 11/07/2017 08:33AM Yeah, while we're at it why not let all countries have nuclear and bio -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 10:47AM Shitty argument, come on RQ, you are better than that. ** -- hoothat 11/08/2017 03:57AM The standard bullshit argument. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 08:53AM How so? People make decisions, sometimes poorly -- hoothat 11/08/2017 04:00AM It's not BS as guns cant fire by themselves. Why can't there be 2 problems? -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:04AM Yeah, and a gunman without a gun can't fire either. ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 09:23AM And your proposal for dealing with the 350+ million guns already on the -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 09:36AM None. Anti-gun crowd doesn't have the balz. But we must "do something"! ** -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 09:58AM Oh, I have answers; but discussing them here is a waste of energy ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 10:30AM Of course, then you might get challenged and have to defend them. ** -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:37AM (ignoring ...) ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 10:54AM Yep, best you stick to your pointless drive-by posts than actually putting -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 11:03AM Actually you've demonstrated ad nauseum that you don't want any actual -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 11:04AM More nothing to offer thanks. Not agreeing with you and not being willing -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 11:10AM If only ... ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 11:24AM There are MORE than two problems in this country. Now suppose we stop using -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:17AM Or how about we address the larger problem that would help more people -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:23AM Defeatist rhetoric. It's going to take time, so it's time we started. Like -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:27AM You mean that wasnt addressed by obamacare -- TomKazanski 11/07/2017 09:34AM I have no issues with magazine restrictions and I say that as someone who -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:33AM These gun arguments become so infuriating because they are.. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/07/2017 11:06AM That's good because now you're just talking about what the limit should be -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:38AM Step in the right direction towards what? -- TomKazanski 11/07/2017 09:41AM Abortion and gun control are two separate questions. Another typical tactic -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:46AM Are you just a tad bit embarrassed when you present the truck defense? ** -- hooshouse 11/07/2017 09:17AM Why would I be? It happens all over the world. ** -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:21AM You really think this guy kills 26 with a truck? -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 09:24AM Ask Nice, France... ** -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 09:38AM This was South Bumfuk TX ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 10:25AM So trucks can't kill in South Bumfuk, Tx. I see... ** -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 10:46AM Obtuse much? ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 10:54AM Care to address the 350+ million guns already on the streets? ** -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 11:17AM 1. limit magazines to five rounds; 2. mandatory buy back of any firearm -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 11:27AM Please define #2 and explain the legal and logistic process for #3. -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 11:32AM 2. certainly anything based upon design for a military or law enforcement -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 11:37AM How do you intend to enforce the buyback...particularly of the magazines -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 11:40AM You're found wiht that stuff in your possession, five years -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 11:43AM Welcome to the Industrial Prison Complex Lobby. At least that's how your -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 1:36PM Whoa. I'm humbled.** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 2:24PM You think someone like Devin Kelley, who was on a suicide -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 11:50AM OK, let's just throw up our hands and give up. Exactly -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 12:08PM You don't have to give up, but you do need a well -- Cold Hoober Hoo 11/07/2017 1:10PM 1. I don't think I ever use the term "gun control,' for the eexact reason -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 2:28PM "Murder lobby". LOL. ** -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 12:31PM Thanks for your comment Mr. LaPierre ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 12:32PM I do 100%. It's like you're ok with loss of life but just not with guns. -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:36AM Pixie dust ... ** -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 10:55AM A box truck and a bollard-free parade route in a small TX town. Sure. -- jackethoo 11/07/2017 09:33AM After months of planning, the NYC guy killed 8 -- WahooMatt05 11/07/2017 09:09AM Do we have more mentally ill people than our peer nations -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 09:05AM We do have easier access but I would like to know why people are NOT -- CharlestonSC 11/07/2017 09:13AM "US among most depressed countries in the world" -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:27AM Interesting isn't it, in a country where "the pursuit of happiness" is one -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:30AM Personally, I think we are lazy. No one wants to pursue happiness -- Tafkam Hokie 11/07/2017 8:42PM So now you want to move on blaming religion? Lol. I've made my point -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:41AM So you linked some article saying we have high rates of depression -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 09:55AM I see. So it's gender confused males that are the problem? As opposed to -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:49AM Because liberals like you create grievance industries -- TomKazanski 11/07/2017 09:53AM You're arguing that there were no shootings 20 years ago? Just how stupid -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 10:51AM You do raise an interesting point with respect to the increase in mass -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 10:06AM Because most people live in metro areas now and don't hunt or sport shoot. -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 11:06AM Thank you for agreeing with my point that access to guns is lower now -- Hokie5150 11/07/2017 11:16AM Access to AR-15s and other assault weapons is only lower in your -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 11:21AM I didn't blame. Just making an observation. You gave a predicably stupid -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:55AM Of course you blamed, but guess what you will lose on this issue -- TomKazanski 11/07/2017 09:57AM Great. Let us know when you have a rational solution. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 09:59AM We're the 3rd largest country in the world. I think it's realistic to think -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:10AM The statistics that concern all of us are PER CAPITA -- HoozOnTop 11/07/2017 09:38AM Do some research on who and you'll see the numbers are worse by per capita. -- SokurHoo83 11/07/2017 09:48AM We are the only country on the planet with an epidemic of mass domestic -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 09:18AM So Bush was right? Iraq had WMD? -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:00AM As a noted liberal, please define the needless deaths of 26 people? ** -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 10:07AM All deaths are needless. -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:16AM Is the murder of 26 people a mass murder? ** -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 10:22AM Umm, ofcourse...where did I imply it wasn't? ** -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:30AM You objected to my use of the term. -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 10:42AM For your reference. -- hoothat 11/07/2017 12:07PM Ofcourse not, but you are diverging from the historic usage -- hoothat 11/07/2017 11:54AM Your pov is a head scratcher but not uncharacteristic. -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 12:21PM Some popular usage of it? -- hoothat 11/07/2017 12:34PM You are a complete idiot. -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 12:47PM My god man. -- hoothat 11/07/2017 1:04PM From your Wikipedia piece..... -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 1:26PM I never said it wasn't used more after 2003 -- hoothat 11/07/2017 2:31PM I have the same thought every time I see that WMD reference. TBF not just -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:04AM Not conspiratorial, I assure you. -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 10:16AM Wasn't suggesting a conspiracy, I just chuckle hearing that from much the -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:24AM Why do the Swiss not have this problem? ** -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:18AM Why do you think? In what ways should emulate Switzerland? Or should we at -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 10:22AM Where did I say we should? -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:29AM You completely mischaracterized what I said. -- Chuck Taylor 11/07/2017 12:26PM And I pointed out the Swiss, who don't have a similar problem... -- hoothat 11/07/2017 12:43PM They limit their possession to members of a well regulated militia -- KCHoo 11/07/2017 8:26PM Who is in there Militia KC? -- hoothat 11/07/2017 8:30PM People who receive serious army training. And when they leave -- KCHoo 11/07/2017 8:46PM Lucky for us, this is all just academic -- hoothat 11/07/2017 10:08PM Do you have an answer? I don't though I suspect that it is cultural along -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 10:54AM So maybe the problem is culturally related -- hoothat 11/07/2017 12:04PM Well, you named one. And I did point out the controls. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 12:21PM Best damn chocolate in the world for starters! ** -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 10:26AM I guess. I'm not a huge fan of chocolate though. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 11:05AM Watches and banks are pretty solid too, if that's more to your liking. :-) -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 11:14AM The skiing! Check out Zermatt sometime. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 11:24AM They certainly do mountains better than anyone else too! I skied Crans- -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 11:39AM For sure. I learned in Washington where at some elevations the snow is wet -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 11:53AM Interesting -- hoothat 11/08/2017 04:11AM You soft privileged westerner!You ain't skied until you've mastered VA ice! ** -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 12:03PM I'll one up you. I've "skied" this place before. -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 12:13PM LOL! Game. Set. Match! You win! ** -- Hoodafan 11/07/2017 12:24PM So you don't think we have a cultural problem here in the US after all of -- graycalhoo 11/07/2017 08:50AM IMHO, having a gun fetish is a mental illness in and of itself. -- WahooRQ 11/07/2017 09:07AM Murder lobbyist -- WaxHoo 11/07/2017 08:39AM Frankly, I lost all hope after Sandy Hook. ** -- Hooddihsm 11/07/2017 08:31AM Large Capacity Magazines (link) -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 08:21AM High-capacity magazine ban (link) -- Hoo TV 11/07/2017 08:06AM Place limits on the amount of ammunition you can purchase period, -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 08:21AM Not trying to be snarky, but how are you going to police -- Cold Hoober Hoo 11/07/2017 08:32AM As Hoo TV points out, they do police how much pseudoephedrine is sold. -- graycalhoo 11/07/2017 09:04AM By shell casing? Sure, why not? I'm not as fatalistic as to say guns won't -- Seattle .Hoo 11/07/2017 08:52AM