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Winners of wars make the rules; Mr Lincoln played to win

For all the his folksy ways, hatred of bloodshed and remorse for lost lives; Lincoln wasn't squeamish. He considered the Union indivisible and the armies that marched for him and people who voted for him backed his vision.

That's how history works. Bloody business history; we are lucky to live in the times we do; where war rarely comes to our door.

(In response to this post by Joey Wahoo)

Posted: 11/26/2017 at 7:51PM

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