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Hoojack
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Actually isn’t fisa a way to get warrants that
Typically would be declined “in the name of national security” Thus having a lower threshold for cause?
Again, crazy how they reauthorized the process while also knowing that things were being abused.
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So Mcabe said original warrant wouldn’t have been approved
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:09PM
This is damning. I figured it would be. **
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Hokieesith
02/02/2018 1:40PM
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!
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VaTechie
02/02/2018 2:34PM
Haha. Shocking **
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:47PM
If you google and look at ALL reports from his testimony in December
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:33PM
Or it was in the closed door session that was classified?
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hoothat
02/02/2018 1:37PM
Read my post again, or google "McCabe Dossier" and read the news reports
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:40PM
He just did Balz
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hoothat
02/02/2018 2:03PM
Sure, whatever makes you think you have a point **
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111Balz
02/02/2018 2:06PM
And what was your point balz?**
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hoothat
02/02/2018 2:09PM
Not as far as I can see. It is up to the judge to decide if the
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 1:27PM
Does the alleged statement that the warrant
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 2:44PM
I don’t think so. I doubt it is true but I don’t
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 2:55PM
Thats clueless, A FISA warrant has to go way farther than hearsay, CMON **
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Charleston Cav
02/02/2018 2:01PM
A warrant requires a showing of probable cause. Making that showing
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 2:22PM
Paul Blart. **
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 2:26PM
I'm just a guy who clerked for a FISA judge once upon a time, but KC's
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 2:20PM
Actually isn’t fisa a way to get warrants that
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Hoojack
02/02/2018 2:11PM
It’s mostly to let them keep them secret longer (or forever in many
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 2:36PM
Fact that the FBI would have investigated information from the dossier
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:31PM
Except by the fbis own words they dont find it to be credible
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TomKazanski
02/02/2018 1:34PM
Unverified does not mean not credible and salacious means pee tape. Lol. **
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THECZAR
02/02/2018 1:43PM
That doesn't mean not credible
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:42PM
So you know its not been verified and is from an opposing political campaig
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TomKazanski
02/02/2018 1:56PM
Sounds like a pretty good reason
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Hoojack
02/02/2018 2:03PM
Yes they all **
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:11PM
Stupid iPhone **
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:12PM
Deleted**
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:11PM
Yes they all **
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:11PM
Deleted **
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:13PM
Yes they all **
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walkthecorner
02/02/2018 2:11PM
Believe he said it about portions such as peeing, not about
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:37PM
Neither of those words mean not credible. And parts of
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 1:35PM
Comey called it unverified as of June 2017 **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:41PM
And?
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:43PM
So the FBI can obtain a FISA warrant against someone based on unverified
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:46PM
Warrant would not have been obtained just on the dossier, so am glad they
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:54PM
Actually there is no procedual or legal reason why it could NOT have been
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111Balz
02/02/2018 2:00PM
Not according to McCabe (per Nunes memo) **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:55PM
Nunes, released 3 pages of hundreds for a reason, the FISA Judge would
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:58PM
Bahaha. Good one. Say hello to George Papadopoulos **
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THECZAR
02/02/2018 1:52PM
He's from Yuma, where he's in the software industry **
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HoosGuy
02/02/2018 2:02PM
Think that's Papagiorgio! **
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 2:32PM
So 1) that can and does happen; 2) that is NOT what happened here
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:48PM
Please enlighten us with the truth. Thanks in advance. **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:49PM
It is all over this board, dude, or google it. My gosh just try to think
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:57PM
Then why would McCabe testify "no dossier, no warrant"? **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 2:00PM
I strongly doubt he did. That would make no sense given an existing
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111Balz
02/02/2018 2:03PM
...because it is Trump **
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Tuckahokie
02/02/2018 1:47PM
Willful ignorance, tuck **
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:49PM
Which part?
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hoothat
02/02/2018 1:38PM
That's one.....a guy the FBO had been investigating since 2013 for his ties
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:42PM
So...
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hoothat
02/02/2018 2:06PM
I have no idea or care what you knew. It's what the FBI knew that matters **
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111Balz
02/02/2018 2:07PM
It was public information Balz...
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hoothat
02/02/2018 2:16PM
Before Trump even started his presidential run **
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:45PM
Right. And it’s hard to imagine there wouldn’t be probable cause to
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 1:34PM
They also can not get renewals on the warrants without progress, they
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:35PM
Renewals are every 90 days. They had been getting renewals since 2014.
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THECZAR
02/02/2018 1:45PM
Shame FISA Judge can not come out and say here you go. Nunes
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:46PM
Hearsay is far more reliable than clinton oppo research **
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TomKazanski
02/02/2018 1:29PM
I doubt you understand what either is. Regardless, I don’t
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KCHoo
02/02/2018 1:32PM
The fact that the FBI with all its resources is relying on this for anythin
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TomKazanski
02/02/2018 1:40PM
You are either a lying sack of shit or a complete idiot. Maybe both. **
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 2:21PM
The FBI relied on newspaper articles (not written by him) about the
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:43PM
Republican research...that has been confirmed... **
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THECZAR
02/02/2018 1:31PM
By whom? Steele was hired by the Dems post-GOP (link)
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:33PM
You keep saying this and we all know it
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:45PM
Fusion was paid by a GOP entity not Steele - they are different **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:47PM
Steele wasn't hired by Fusion?
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:50PM
Continued - Steele was hired by Fusion for DNC work post-GOP **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:53PM
Fusion is a DC-based research firm. Steele is a former British spy. **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:52PM
Why? Has the info relating to Page in the dossier
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:17PM
The pee tape is out there **
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KaHOOnah
02/02/2018 1:23PM
That is what I don't get. What am I missing? Putting aside the fact
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HoosWillWin
02/02/2018 1:22PM
Because they've convinced themselves the dossier
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:36PM
I think I agree with you, but I am really trying to
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HoosWillWin
02/02/2018 1:44PM
I don't think so. But the dossier is the end all be all of Fake News
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wahoo138
02/02/2018 1:46PM
My question is any info whether true or false, obtained from
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:21PM
It is a false statement to say that the warrant would not have been issued
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:37PM
According to the memo, that’s exactly what Macabe said. No FISA
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:52PM
Given the frustration expressed by GOP committee members after his
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111Balz
02/02/2018 2:02PM
And the investigation started with Papadopolous based on info from the
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 4:32PM
That's not what the memo reads, though. Read it again
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KaHOOnah
02/02/2018 1:29PM
Where are you getting this narrative?
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 1:28PM
No narrative, I was just wondering if as you say
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:41PM
There were earlier warrants before the dossier and there were
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Mg234
02/02/2018 1:27PM
Can you clearly explain what concerns you? Make it simple? I don't get it. **
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HoosWillWin
02/02/2018 1:23PM
Argument: dossier was "unverified" and produced by/for a political opponent
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:30PM
I don't know FISA rules, so I can't comment. I suspect most can't, unless
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HoosWillWin
02/02/2018 1:40PM
McCabe testified no FISA warrant if no dossier **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 1:32PM
McCabe is not the one who approved the warrant. You guys are clueless
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WahooRQ
02/02/2018 2:24PM
McCabe said FBI wouldn't have sought warrant without dossier **
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Sabremetrician
02/02/2018 2:50PM
Right. Nothing matters because everyone is a fucking moron **
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KaHOOnah
02/02/2018 2:30PM
Nm**
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Hooddihsm
02/02/2018 1:23PM
Source (not Fox / Breitbart)?**
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WaxHoo
02/02/2018 1:13PM
CNN stated that’s what Mcabe said according to the memo. So I guess
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:16PM
I'd bet $ that assertion will be proved to be at best a distortion ... **
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WaxHoo
02/02/2018 1:19PM
It should be part of the transcripts from his testimony **
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Cold Hoober Hoo
02/02/2018 1:23PM
McCabe lied? **
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Tuckahokie
02/02/2018 1:22PM
No, Nunes is a liar. he has been trying to obstruct this investigation from
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111Balz
02/02/2018 1:34PM
Nunes distorted McCabe's testimony (took out of context, didn't report
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WaxHoo
02/02/2018 1:25PM
Like an insurance policy on his memo to protect his secret society. **
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WahooMatt05
02/02/2018 1:31PM
The memo claims McCabe testified before the House Intelligence
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Hooddihsm
02/02/2018 1:17PM
Semantics matter
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Beerman
02/02/2018 1:28PM
That is such a good analogy **
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KaHOOnah
02/02/2018 1:36PM
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