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Question for the gun control advocates: What is the minimum action you'd -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 1:41PM If I were a liberal, I would take any action I could get and say that would -- ryno hoo 02/20/2018 7:21PM One big problem I see, is many citizens and those in congress want -- HokieSignGuy 02/20/2018 5:19PM Nothing stands on its own anymore or -- walkthecorner 02/20/2018 5:36PM Thank you. ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 5:20PM Actually, I consider this a good question. Gotta start somewhere, tho not -- WaxHoo 02/20/2018 5:04PM That's not the right question. I would like to see an honest conversation -- WahooRQ 02/20/2018 3:05PM Yep, hard to define a "minimum" action; many angles that need to be worked -- SPYCAV 02/20/2018 3:52PM I'm just curious as to what it would take, at a minimum, for those -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:55PM I have a few thoughts: -- hoolstoptheheels 02/20/2018 5:52PM Perfectly legitimate question. ** -- HokieSignGuy 02/20/2018 5:15PM Speaking of straw purchasers. Did you see the -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 3:10PM It's my question, so it is indeed the right question. As for your response -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:07PM I demand regulation ** -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:00PM Such as? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:03PM As posted below; work off the model of the automobile -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:24PM This is how I feel it should eventually be. Responsible gun owners and -- HokieSignGuy 02/20/2018 5:22PM Who would pay for the testing and licencing? Is it a problem if such -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:30PM Tax payers and applicants for licenses -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:46PM I liken it to voter ID requirements. Such requirements, even when -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:49PM Voting is a different model than my automobile model -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:59PM Voting and gun ownership are both 'rights' models whereas car licensing -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 4:02PM Well regulated; its in the 2nd amendment; you don't seem to want to address -- Quaker 02/20/2018 4:16PM "well regulated Militia". The term "well regulated" applies to the Militia -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 4:19PM The whole amendment refers to the militia. ** -- VAGentleman05 02/20/2018 10:20PM If that is the case, why does it say "the right of the people to keep and -- Hokie5150 02/21/2018 06:28AM Because it's a sloppy, poorly-drafted trainwreck of words. -- WahooRQ 02/21/2018 2:54PM LENIN, Donny! Vladimir Iyich Ulyanov!!!!! -- WahooRQ 02/20/2018 4:31PM Gun ownership is not a "right" either. The People have a right to bear -- WahooRQ 02/20/2018 4:11PM Every other right "of The People" implies an individual right...what makes -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 4:17PM The difference is -- Beerman 02/20/2018 3:56PM Is there not also a clear public safety interest (or at a minimum a well- -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 4:06PM Absolutely -- Beerman 02/20/2018 4:14PM Recognize we have a professional military now and don't need -- hokeyhokie 02/20/2018 2:53PM Maybe we "well regulate" them as Constitution demands? ** -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:00PM Does the Constitution demand that guns be "well regulated" or militias? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:04PM It doesn't "demand" a well-regulated militia; it holds a ... -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:32PM Do you agree, though, that the "well regulated" phrase applies to the -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:34PM It applies to the militia and, BACK THEN, every able bodied free man was .. -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:41PM What are the militia's deferment rules regarding bone spurs? ** -- WahooMatt05 02/20/2018 3:45PM Much stiffer than the one on huge bald spots. ** -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:49PM Here is my friend Google's text of the amendment -- Quaker 02/20/2018 3:26PM A repeal of the 2nd Amendment? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:53PM It does seem outdated. Is a militia going to defeat an army these days? -- WahooMatt05 02/20/2018 3:15PM Taliban forces are little more than militias and have essentially fought -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:27PM The Taliban had tanks when they overthrew the Afghan government. -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:34PM And has almost nothing to do with their firepower -- Beerman 02/20/2018 3:32PM Funny you should mention "the militia" going up against the Army. -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:22PM The thing to remember about "the militia" going up against the Army, -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:53PM Maybe true. And ALSO has nothing to do with the citizenry's firepower. ** -- Beerman 02/20/2018 3:57PM I hadn't seen that. He makes some solid points. ** -- WahooMatt05 02/20/2018 3:43PM AR-15s - "Barbies for men." ** -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:51PM Are you looking for one thing? ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 2:48PM Not at all. I'm just curious what people define as "doing something" in -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:49PM Ok, then capacity limits, expanded background checks and red flag laws. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 2:53PM Where would you limit the capacity? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:54PM 6 for handguns 10 for long guns. +1 don’t count. Or something close. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 3:00PM Just curious, why the difference for handguns vs long guns? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:01PM Handguns are personal protection and if you need more than 6 to get -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 3:07PM No removable magazine, 10 round limit. ** -- LAHOOters 02/20/2018 2:15PM I'd go with that as a start. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2018 2:29PM So, I'll ask both you and LAHOOters...are you calling for a ban on all -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:46PM Yes. Are you hunting or laying seige to the forest? ** -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:35PM Including semi-automatic handgun? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:40PM I don't want any handguns regardless of clip-fed or revolver. -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:42PM OK, no handguns. ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:47PM I said it's a start. The thread earlier is closest to what I'd like to see. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2018 3:28PM I'm not attacking your position...just want to make sure I understand where -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 3:32PM No, just capacity and ease/speed of reload ** -- LAHOOters 02/20/2018 2:51PM OK, so 10 round removable magazines would be allowed, but nothing over that -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:52PM No easily removable clips. California already kinda has this law. You can't -- LAHOOters 02/20/2018 3:01PM How long does it take to remove the clip with the tool? Is it complicated? ** -- hooyorkcity 02/20/2018 3:09PM I really don't know. ** -- LAHOOters 02/20/2018 3:13PM I believe his proposal is no removable magazine -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 2:56PM How would you design that and then how would you prevent modification? -- hooyorkcity 02/20/2018 2:59PM When the empty magazine is removed, it would engage a small obstructing pin -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 3:11PM Yeah, just not a killer with nothing to lose, though. -- hooyorkcity 02/20/2018 3:30PM If no removable magazines were allowed, would you ban existing -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:58PM Would that include a ban on existing firearms that fit this description? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:28PM I would not grandfather magazines>10 rounds. Maybe a buyback program -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 2:34PM Just so I understand, you'd ban all semi-automatic handguns due to the -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:36PM We're discussing LAHOOters proposal -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 2:39PM His proposal, though, was no removable magazine, 10 round limit. ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:41PM Yes, but any such proposal would have to address "pre-existing conditions" ** -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 2:43PM OK, thanks ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:44PM Thank you. ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:25PM Excellent idea. ** -- Hfbyrd 02/20/2018 2:20PM Not really a "minimum action" though. Would be a HUGE action. ** -- LAHOOters 02/20/2018 2:23PM And a good one IMO ** -- NJHoo 02/20/2018 2:25PM I'm not a hard line gun control advocate, but "doing something" isn't goal -- CMUHoo 02/20/2018 2:06PM An AR-15 and the likes are fantastic weapons for hog, coyote and other -- SokurHoo83 02/20/2018 3:17PM People in certain industries are given access -- KCHoo 02/20/2018 6:33PM Why is an AR-15 better than a scoped .30 caliber? ** -- HowieT3 02/20/2018 3:43PM I would guess quicker shot. IE, you missed the first shot and, before Wile -- Late 80s Hokie 02/20/2018 4:36PM Depends on which .30 cal you're talking about. ** -- SokurHoo83 02/20/2018 4:00PM Ding ding ding ** -- 06 Hoo 02/20/2018 3:48PM I’ve not heard of the argument for needing an AR because of the -- Cold Hoober Hoo 02/20/2018 2:47PM I understand that the AR is a cosmetic thing. -- CMUHoo 02/20/2018 2:55PM Semiautomatic rifles are very popular for hunting and target shooting. ** -- JMHoo 02/20/2018 2:15PM Popular yes, necessary no. -- CMUHoo 02/20/2018 2:49PM Does a hunting need play a role in the second amendment? ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 8:06PM Not really, but this isn't really 2nd amendment related IMO. -- CMUHoo 02/20/2018 8:15PM Nope. The point of the 2A is to be able to protect yourself from threats -- Tafkam Hokie 02/20/2018 8:15PM For hunting humans, that is. -- Freddyburg Hokie 02/20/2018 2:33PM Thanks for the reply. ** -- Hokie5150 02/20/2018 2:13PM