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What's this?

Are you guys seriously trying to "thanks Obama" that NATO funding increase?

You do realize 2024 is still 6 yrs away, and accelerating it is better than waiting. Well, not from Putin's perspective.

At least you offered up some facts wrt Ukraine to try and support your point, unlike Czar's absurd and childish post. So maybe the impact of what those weapons sales mean is being exaggerated by Trump, but the fact remains, those sales were made, they weren't previously, and that can't make the Puppeteer happy. Are you advocating that he should expand those sales even further? That we should go in and take back Crimea from Putin? And did you consider Obama Putin's puppet for not having done so? Oh that's right, he didn't speak nicely to Putin. Well, not after telling him he could be more "flexible". You guys may have a point on rolling back sanctions, but the only rollback I recall pertained to releasing some buildings back. And possibly not enforcing in the way you would like, sanctions that didn't even exist under Obama. Wow!

What you two seem to want to conveniently avoid is that if Hillary had done exactly the same as what Trump has done, things which Obama didn't do, you wouldn't be sitting here calling them Putin's puppet, selling out our democracy, etc. It's that disingenuous approach that makes your accusations come off as laughable.

(In response to this post by Seattle .Hoo)

Posted: 07/19/2018 at 5:10PM

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