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The evidence has been pretty clear

He had millions of dollars that he didn't claim as income, that's illegal. His defense was that Rick Gates stole it from him. Well, regardless, if you obtained money, and didn't report it, that's illegal. I don't think your business partner stealing it is a valid tax write off.

He lied on his bank loan application. His defense was he didn't get the loan, or that the bank CEO wanted an Admin job. That doesn't change the fact that he lied on his bank loan application.

He is trying to get off on the illegal stuff he did by trying to excuse it away. That doesn't change the fact that he did illegal stuff. I'll listen to what the court says because that's what we do in this country, but he has most certainly committed illegal acts in my mind.

If he's found not guilty, it provides more evidence of two systems of justice - one for rich people, and one for not rich people.

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Posted: 08/14/2018 at 3:40PM

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