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I guess that is #winning

I thought the Clintons were going to get nailed on Whitewater. Assuming Wiki is right, the following happened:

Convictions

The Clintons were never charged with any crime. Fifteen other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Jim Guy Tucker, who resigned from office.[44]

Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

Trump rhetoric may have caused Collusion Confusion causing an investigation and in the end be exonerated but a bunch of people usually get caught up in this when an investigation would look at if you can be "compromised" by a foreign government like many on this board have gone through when getting a clearance.. I am hoping we are seeing a wind down of this investigation, but I doubt we are done with charges. I have been wrong before.

Is this a waste of money and time? IMHO, no, it at least weeded out Flynn who I think could be compromised. We have others pleading guilty to minor charges so they do not face major charges. Trump may come out fine, but at least his rhetoric did drain some of the swamp that could be compromised.

(In response to this post by TomKazanski)

Posted: 11/30/2018 at 11:19AM

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Witch hunt -- Hooddihsm 11/30/2018 10:04AM

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Momm!! The meatloaf! ** -- Hooddihsm 11/30/2018 12:46PM

Not like last time or the time before that. This time you’ve got him. ** -- Hokieesith 11/30/2018 12:54PM

Which one of those pertains to Russian collusion again? ** -- Hoodafan 11/30/2018 10:35AM

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Man. You've gone full Trump ** -- wahoo138 11/30/2018 11:40AM

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And recovered quite nicely from being "dead broke". :-) ** -- Hoodafan 11/30/2018 12:27PM

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Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! ** -- Hoo TV 11/30/2018 12:25PM

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Go for it ** -- Hoo TV 11/30/2018 12:57PM

No answer? Hmmm. So what was your point again? ** -- Hoodafan 11/30/2018 1:05PM

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Just his political enemies, you know, Dims, libruls, environmentalists, etc ** -- Hoo TV 11/30/2018 11:41AM

There’s no there there. -- DanTheFan 11/30/2018 11:13AM

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That isn't from infowars or Alex Jones.... -- hoothat 11/30/2018 12:02PM

You're sure, huh? -- hoothat 11/30/2018 11:23AM

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If you want conspiracy comedy just browse the main page... ** -- hoothat 11/30/2018 11:31AM

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The one with all the guilty pleas? -- Shenhoo 11/30/2018 11:40AM

SMH, enjoy the ride Shen. ** -- hoothat 11/30/2018 11:46AM

I am. One indictment at a time. ** -- Shenhoo 11/30/2018 11:49AM

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LOL...this board cracks me up ** -- Tuckahokie 11/30/2018 10:57AM

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Just a shame this didn't happen under obama ** -- FfxStationHokie 11/30/2018 10:14AM

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The Sabre’s very own Baghdad Tom. Look at all the winning! ** -- hooyorkcity 11/30/2018 10:22AM

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Patience young Padawan ** -- Hooddihsm 11/30/2018 10:13AM