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It is disturbing, but I guess not surprising, that we

have people with your attitude from UVA as well as on this site. After all, UVA has some high profile white supremacists so we are not immune from such attitudes.

Please see this attachment as a warning to all of us. Fortunately, I think we are a very strong country, and I don't see us going down this path. (I'm guessing you will say that I am suggesting this, based on your past, childish posting behavior - whatever). However, there is a subset of people in every population that holds these views, and you seem to be among them. I'm guessing that these people are also among Trump's strongest supporters, and this group is participating in active dehumanization whether they are aware of this or not.

It would be irresponsible for us to ignore this segment of our population and make sure that we keep them in check. Trump has been a real challenge, but I think our country is responding well to the initial shock. In the end, I think we will be a stronger country, despite people like you.

Regardless, it is always good to stay educated about the worst that society can be. The linked analysis is good reading for everyone. Some key excerpts are below:

"In other words, genocide is not a qualitatively distinct category of human behavior – it follows ordinary principles of human cognition, affect, and behavior that certain societal and political conditions (such as political upheaval, prior genocide, autocratic rule, and low trade openness) allow to escalate into more and more severe violence. This continuum of destruction1 which often begins with seemingly harmless acts of blaming a group for one’s misfortune2 or supporting exclusion of this group as a solution to one’s problems also implies that we need to be aware of the creeping normalization of hate speech and exclusionary ideologies."

"However, dehumanization does not only occur during genocide, or what we officially recognize as genocide. Recent research by Nour Kteily and colleagues shows, for example, that people residing in the U.S. engage in considerable degrees of blatant dehumanization of other groups, above all Mexican immigrants, Arabs, and Muslims."

(In response to this post by hoothat)

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Posted: 12/11/2018 at 08:46AM

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I'll take that bet. I already showed the idiocy to others.. -- hoothat 12/10/2018 2:09PM

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See link. -- HoosWillWin 12/11/2018 11:43AM

See Link -- hoothat 12/11/2018 11:51AM

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Do````: ** -- SchmHoo 12/10/2018 2:49PM

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