also seemed to think were valid) necessarily relate to illegal immigrants. In fact, the vast majority of the immigrant kids in public schools are either legal immigrants or the natural born children of immigrants (so maybe the parents are illegal, but the kids are US citizens). So is the issue "illegal immigration" or just an aversion to or perception that working class kids who maybe don't speak English are a strain on resources and drag down our public schools -- which really isn't about "illegal" immigration at all?

It's a valid question. I know you're no white trashionalist and didn't mean to imply you were. But a pet peeve of mine is when bigots hide behind some fictional concern over compliance with immigration law to try and excuse their real sentiment -- which is they simply don't like poor people who speak foreign languages being in "their" country. That certainly is Tommy, but not you -- which is why I was wondering why you more or less backed up his claim above.