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Moneyshot

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You’re changing the question


No, I don’t think illegal immigrants should be part of a subsidized universal healthcare system. Neither do most American citizens. This issue is a loser for the Dems.

Your own post points out that we have no idea how many illegal immigrants are here, how many of those that are here pay FEDERAL income taxes, and consequently what it wil cost to provide health care to them. Yes, as you point out, we can determine how much revenue is generated from illegals who file federal returns...but that is irrelevant...it doesn’t answer the question of how many are here (ie how much is it going to cost to insure them all). All your data says is that 4.4 million illegals filed...is that 10% of the illegal population? 40%...75? Nobody knows. “Estimates suggest 50-75%” is fluff...I’ve seen estimates as low as 25-30%% from reputable sources. So again, nobody has any reasonable estimate of the cost/benefit of adding coverage for illegals.

But for the sake of argument.. If you use Bocas math below and assume that 100% of illegal wage earners pay federal taxes and 50% of the total illegal population are wage earners (ie mom and dad file with 2 kids) and apply 100% of those tax revenues to a HC program...the numbers don’t even add up. And those are ridiculously generous assumptions towards your case.

And don’t even get me started on the whole “fairness” debate of having people sneak into this country illegally and expecting US taxpayers to subsidize them...

(In response to this post by Seattle .Hoo)

Posted: 07/15/2019 at 09:54AM



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