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hoolstoptheheels

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That's irrelevant to the two critical points.


Which are, first, the call transcript at a minimum looks like a demand for a clear quid pro quo in exchange of US aid, and two, that appearance is made all the more suspicious by the president's request that Zelensky speak to his personal attorney. He did not refer the matter, or Zelensky, to the US Embassy, or to the FBI. Which shows that Ukrainian corruption was not the concern. Assistance with Trump's political goals was.

As far as anyone can tell the Crowdstrike thing exists only in the imaginations of conspiracy theorists. And is in any even also irrelevant to the appropriateness of Trump's methods of using the US treasury as a bludgeon to force Ukraine to investigate it.

(In response to this post by hoothat)

Posted: 09/29/2019 at 1:08PM



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