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JMHoo

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What’s wrong with asking for assistance in an ongoing US criminal


investigation?

Jed Babbin explains:

In the conversation, Trump asked Zelensky to commence (or recommence) two investigations. The first is in aid of the ongoing Barr-Durham investigation into the abuses of power by the CIA and FBI in conducting the spy-op against Trump and his 2016 campaign:

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say, Ukraine has it. (Ellipses in original. According to the release, ellipses indicate inaudible content.)

CrowdStrike is a cloud-based internet security firm that the DNC hired to investigate how hackers — later identified as Russian security agents — had stolen DNC and Clinton emails. Some of the computer servers from which the Russians operated to intercept the emails were (are?) believed to be located in Ukraine....

Trump was asking for Ukrainian help in investigating the background of the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation — the spy-op that the CIA and FBI mounted against his campaign. That investigation is being conducted here by Attorney General William Barr and U.S. Attorney for Connecticut John Durham. Trump’s request is for Ukrainian help in that investigation.

That request is not only unimpeachable conduct, but it’s also specifically permitted by a U.S.-Ukraine treaty signed during the Clinton administration.

It’s called the “Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters,” signed in 1999 and ratified by the Senate in 2000. It requires that when a crime is committed in one country and evidence or witnesses related to the crime are in the other, the nation in which the crime was committed can request the other nation to investigate, find evidence and witnesses, and provide access to them to the nation in which the crime was committed.

(In response to this post by VaTechie)

Posted: 10/01/2019 at 10:31PM



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Current Thread:
  I am not understanding your point -- VaTechie 10/01/2019 10:15PM
  Nothing related to Biden or the aid package in your text -- TomKazanski 10/01/2019 10:36PM
  Who robbed an aide? ** -- hoothat 10/01/2019 10:49PM
  Wouldn't that technically be everyone? ** -- hoothat 10/01/2019 10:50PM
  So is firing a prosecutor before we give you money -- TomKazanski 10/01/2019 10:44PM
  Well, just one thing about that... -- wahoo138 10/01/2019 10:55PM
  That’s your interpretation of the Biden events -- TomKazanski 10/01/2019 11:13PM
  This is pure gaslighting ** -- wahoo138 10/01/2019 11:28PM
  He will never argue/discuss in good faith -- EspressHoo 10/02/2019 06:53AM
  That's the narrative, 138. Nice regurgitation. ** -- hoothat 10/01/2019 10:58PM
  You are arguing with an idiot and a troll ** -- 111Balz 10/02/2019 07:24AM
  You're a mess ** -- wahoo138 10/01/2019 11:25PM
  So the US and Russia are the same basically? SMH ** -- BonsackHoo 10/02/2019 07:06AM
  They both controlled Ukraine like a puppet. ** -- hoothat 10/02/2019 10:39AM
  Your point? ** -- wahoo138 10/01/2019 11:26PM
  That your whole anti corruption FP point is a sham. -- hoothat 10/01/2019 11:29PM
  ?? ** -- wahoo138 10/01/2019 11:52PM
  At odds with our policy... ** -- hoothat 10/01/2019 11:56PM
  It doesn't freaking matter, Trumpist ** -- WaxHoo 10/01/2019 10:04PM

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