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hoolstoptheheels

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Oh, well that's good. I just saw Trump having the shortest odds.


I recognize that odds making has limited utility at this point.

While I think the repub party is lost in terms of being unmoored from so many of its core principles, and having become a far right populist nationalist party, I think at this point they have their shit together far more than the dems do from a competitive standpoint.

Unfortunately, I just don't believe this impeachment thing is going to work out well for us anti-Trumpies. I mean, I was fighting tooth and nail below about all the obfuscation around this thing, but it makes no difference what I think. Dems are preaching to the converted with me. This isn't 1974 or even 1998 - the country is not going to have a shared experience in digesting these public hearings. We are going to see it as our echo chambers feed it to us.

So I don't expect anybody to be moved. And if public opinion does not move more towards impeachment, this poll suggests at best a toss up election. Fingers crossed, but like I keep saying, if the final result is Trump impeached, acquitted, and then re-elected, then this whole impeachment effort will be worse than counterproductive. It will be Trump and Trumpism exonerated and confirmed in an election.

I said it before - this is the kind of fight one should only choose if a win is assured - either a conviction in the senate or the election next November. We know we'll lose the former, and the latter is a crapshoot.

Quote I recently heard about dems - when they form a firing squad, they make a circle around the condemned prisoner before shouting "FIRE"!

(In response to this post by wahoo138)

Posted: 11/14/2019 at 3:24PM



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2020 Presidential Election odds - 11/14/19: -- Hoos Operator 11/14/2019 2:14PM
  Agreed. Really weak field this round. ** -- HoosWillWin 11/14/2019 3:40PM
  It's far too early to say or to get agitated about. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/14/2019 3:23PM
  It predicts a coin toss. Both parties are -115 -- wahoo138 11/14/2019 3:07PM
  No, the 22nd Amendment takes care of that -- Stimp 11/14/2019 2:46PM
  Probably not. Never been tested. -- Beerman 11/14/2019 2:44PM
  Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ** -- ResistHoo 11/14/2019 2:18PM

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