The Soapbox

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I simply wish that scientists would present the data as is and we keep

the media, bloggers, YouTubers and politicians out of the spotlight. Even scientists who are funded for their work are feeling the pressure to push a narrative so they continue to receive funding.

There is money to be made from both sides so unfortunately we are never going to get the truth.

The only logical thing most of us can do is use less, recycle, reclaim, etc. Solar is a clean energy, nuclear is a cleaner energy. I hope we continue (or revisit) investing in these technologies. I’m not going to overly stress about climate change because I don’t trust either side.

Plus, we’re probably going to be wiped out by a pandemic first anyway. Happy Monday!

(In response to this post by LAHOOters)

Posted: 02/24/2020 at 08:27AM

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Todays climate propaganda from CNN and USA today -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 1:45PM

I simply wish that scientists would present the data as is and we keep -- carolinawahoo 02/24/2020 08:27AM

Heller seems to be incapable of distinguishing between -- Faz d. Hoo 02/23/2020 3:42PM

Here is what I wish Heller were doing more of -- Faz d. Hoo 02/23/2020 3:51PM

That's a YouTube video ... aren't you labeling the wrong source propoganda? -- Quaker 02/23/2020 2:45PM

From his blog -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 3:13PM

So he is a high school science teacher at a school for troubled teens? -- KCHoo 02/23/2020 6:17PM

I'm sure he's just rolling in the youtube money... ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 6:35PM

I guess he knows more on the subject than all of us combined ** -- Wahoo Ron 02/23/2020 5:08PM

That’s quite impressive resume but unfortunately for Hellwr illustrates -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 4:00PM

That's the point... -- hoothat 02/23/2020 6:40PM

Yeah all the tens of thousands of scientists are all using the same data. -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 7:14PM

YouTube videos are largely unvetted crap -- Quaker 02/23/2020 3:57PM

So is TV. You watch that. ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 6:41PM

And Internet message boards are of course the Holy Grail -- Quaker 02/23/2020 7:07PM

You will never, ever read Heller in a peer -- Shenhoo 02/23/2020 7:53PM

I can't read. I would never have thought to read a science journal... ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 7:13PM

Don't be so hard on yourself I- you aren't stupid just obnoxious ** -- Quaker 02/23/2020 7:28PM

Oh why thank you. You're mostly just an asshole. ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 8:30PM

And if you want to see where he gets his data from -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 3:36PM

Do you know the difference between data -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 5:18PM

Data management - link -- 111Balz 02/23/2020 3:44PM

Thanks for posting these links. Very helpful. ** -- ryno hoo 02/23/2020 2:40PM

What qualifies you to determine that? Trumpist stupidity? Anything else?** -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 1:48PM

Common sense, which the alarmist and their sheep have none. ** -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 2:15PM

^^^ common sense? You??? LOL!! -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 4:54PM

Oh shit, you got him real good. ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 6:39PM

^^^ Trump stupid ** -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 7:27PM

Oh shit, you got me too!** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 8:28PM

Like you’re worth getting ** -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 8:41PM

So you wasted your time? Why? ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 8:43PM

Certainly not to get you ** -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 9:52PM

But you did. You got me real good. ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 10:07PM

Common sense tells me it shouldn' be 65 in February for an extended period -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 3:35PM

Bull, it was 55 and cloudy and windy during my round today -- TomKazanski 02/23/2020 4:16PM

Damn man its 61/62 just south of Cville. ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 4:18PM

Weather sure is confusing... -- hoothat 02/23/2020 8:36PM

Only if local schools do a preemptive closing them I just might. ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 8:52PM

Count your lucky stars, when I had my birdwood membership would have -- TomKazanski 02/23/2020 4:24PM

Here, just made this for you using NOAA data. -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 4:13PM

Mild winters have never happened before... ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 4:04PM

Sure they have and we used to routinely get snow before Christmas in centra -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 4:16PM

Uhhh, not in my lifetime... ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 5:47PM

I grew up in C'ville 60s,70s and don't remember it that way, and that was -- LAHOOters 02/23/2020 4:31PM

Then your memory is as bad as your reasoning ** -- 111Balz 02/24/2020 06:12AM

I was an hour north and south of Charlottesville during that time and we -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/23/2020 4:37PM

I can see a little -- VaTechie 02/23/2020 8:05PM

FWIW, DC and Philly are on pace for the warmest on record -- Faz d. Hoo 02/23/2020 4:13PM

Like every 100 years? ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 5:46PM

2 points on the globe 100 miles apart is evidence of global warming? Are -- Sabremetrician 02/23/2020 4:40PM

If you had read my post, you would have gotten to the last line where I -- Faz d. Hoo 02/23/2020 4:53PM

Do you give him money? ** -- 111Balz 02/23/2020 1:48PM