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Local leaders are NOT pleased. They need to bring in their national guard


and remove Trump's personal army.

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The mayor of Portland demanded Friday that President Donald Trump remove militarized federal agents he deployed to the city after some detained people on streets far from federal property they were sent to protect. “Keep your troops in your own buildings, or have them leave our city,” Mayor Ted Wheeler said at a news conference. Democratic Gov. Kate Brown said Trump is looking for a confrontation in the hopes of winning political points elsewhere and to serve as a distraction from the coronavirus pandemic, which is causing spiking numbers of infections in Oregon and the nation. Brown’s spokesman, Charles Boyle, said Friday that arresting people without probable cause is “extraordinarily concerning and a violation of their civil liberties and constitutional rights.”

The ACLU of Oregon said the federal agents appear to be violating citizens’ rights. “Usually when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street we call it kidnapping,” said Jann Carson, interim executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon. “The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with crimes related to the protests so far, Oregon Public Broadcasting reported Thursday. Some have been detained by the federal courthouse, which has been the scene of protests. But others were grabbed blocks away. “This is part of the core media strategy out of Trump’s White House: to use federal troops to bolster his sagging polling data,” Wheeler said. “And it is an absolute abuse of federal law enforcement officials.” One video showed two people in helmets and green camouflage with “police” patches grabbing a person on the sidewalk, handcuffing them and taking them into an unmarked vehicle. “Who are you?” someone asks the pair, who do not respond. At least some of the federal officers belong to the Department of Homeland Security. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a statement that its agents had information indicating the person in the video was suspected of assaulting federal agents or destroying federal property. “Once CBP agents approached the suspect, a large and violent mob moved towards their location. For everyone’s safety, CBP agents quickly moved the suspect to a safer location,” the agency said. However, the video shows no mob.

In another case, Mark Pettibone, 29, said a minivan rolled up to him around 2 a.m. Wednesday and four or five people got out “looking like they were deployed to a Middle Eastern war.” Pettibone told The Associated Press he got to his knees as the group approached. They dragged him into the van without identifying themselves or responding to his questions, he said. “I figured I was just going to disappear for an indefinite amount of time,” Pettibone said. Pettibone said he was put into a cell and officers dumped the contents of his backpack, with one remarking: “Oh, this is a bunch of nothing.” After he asked for a lawyer, Pettibone was allowed to leave. “Authoritarian governments, not democratic republics, send unmarked authorities after protesters,” Democratic U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley said in a tweet. The Council on American-Islamic Relations Oregon chapter said in a statement: “We are now seeing escalating tactics with protesters being unlawfully detained by unknown Federal law enforcement entities.” U.S. Attorney Billy Williams in Portland said Friday he has requested the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General investigate the actions of DHS personnel.

Oregon’s two senators and two of its House members announced they will also be asking the DHS inspector general as well as the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate “the unrequested presence and violent actions of federal forces in Portland.” “It’s painfully clear this administration is focused purely on escalating violence without answering my repeated requests for why this expeditionary force is in Portland and under what constitutional authority,” Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden said. The Department of Homeland Security had no immediate comment when reached by AP on Friday. On Thursday night, federal officers deployed tear gas and fired non-lethal rounds into a crowd of protesters. Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad Wolf visited Portland on Thursday and called the demonstrators, who are protesting racism and police brutality, “violent anarchists.” Wolf blamed state and city authorities for not putting an end to the protests. But Portland police said Friday they wound up arresting 20 people overnight. At least two protests occurred Thursday night, one near the federal courthouse and the other by a police station in another part of the city. Police told protesters to leave that site after announcing they heard some chanting about burning down the building. Protester Paul Frazier said Friday the chant was “much more rhetorical than an actual statement.” Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell told reporters Friday that his officers are in contact with the federal agents, but that neither controls the others’ actions.

“We do communicate with federal officers for the purpose of situational awareness and deconfliction,” Lovell said. “We’re operating in a very, very close proximity to one another … so it’s important for us to know if they’re going to take some type of action and it’s important for them to know if we’re going to take some type of action.” The American Civil Liberties Union said it would file legal papers Friday to add the federal government to a lawsuit it filed earlier to halt the use of crowd control measures, including tear gas and rubber bullets, against journalists and legal observers at protests in Portland. Tensions have escalated in the past two weeks, particularly after an officer with the U.S. Marshals Service fired a less-lethal round at a protester’s head on July 11, critically injuring him. The protests following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis have often devolved into violent clashes between smaller groups and the police. The unrest has caused deep divisions in a city that prides itself on its activism and progressive reputation. ___ This version corrects that chanting about burning happened at police station, not federal courthouse.

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Posted: 07/18/2020 at 2:52PM



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Yet more jackbootedness..... -- SchmHoo 07/18/2020 2:03PM
  Trump's GESTAPO ** -- NJHoo 07/18/2020 3:08PM
  Maybe the local police could.... oh wait never mind ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 07/18/2020 5:12PM
  He could do that anyway. He hasn't got the balls. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 07/18/2020 5:35PM
  That's how Xi would handle it ** -- Plano Hoo 07/18/2020 5:07PM
  Great leader ** -- Hoo TV 07/18/2020 5:09PM
  We need the whole story ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 2:43PM
  Best to wait until we get the whole story... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 2:53PM
  So why don’t we know by now? ** -- 111Balz 07/18/2020 3:00PM
  Yeah... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:02PM
  You wouldn't believe the authorities would you? ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:05PM
  So why do you want to hear from them? ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:08PM
  Oh, sure. That would be good too ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:12PM
  So just them run amok. ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:12PM
  Extraordinary rendition. -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:06PM
  LOL. You guys are gone ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:08PM
  When did you lose touch, dude? ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:10PM
  ^^^ this post will not age well ... ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:18PM
  No answer. OK ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:27PM
  He couldn't even try if he wanted to -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:31PM
  When did you lose touch -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:34PM
  Barr would shut that down immediately -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:42PM
  Now that's truly laughable. ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 3:43PM
  Barr is nothing if not Law and Order ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:49PM
  I think he's implying these guys enemy aliens. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 07/18/2020 3:08PM
  Isn't it CBP? -- Beerman 07/18/2020 2:51PM
  You've seen enough to know this is not right. ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 2:46PM
  Here is what we need to know... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 2:51PM
  Now you want help from the police. Isn’t that rich. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 07/18/2020 5:22PM
  When have I said I didn't. ** -- WaxHoo 07/18/2020 5:38PM
  Who are flight risks - the authortities? ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/18/2020 3:01PM
  What person? ** -- CyberHoo78 07/18/2020 2:58PM
  Secret police ** -- wahoo138 07/18/2020 2:28PM
  Sturmabteilung ** -- Hoo TV 07/18/2020 2:32PM
  Geheime Staatspolizei ** -- Hoodeac 07/18/2020 3:38PM
  Sturmtruppen or Braunhemden ** -- Hoo TV 07/18/2020 3:42PM
  Preview of November's coming attractions. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 07/18/2020 2:51PM
  And look who wants to take it national.... -- SchmHoo 07/18/2020 2:06PM
  Well, he has found his dream job ** -- Hoo TV 07/18/2020 2:25PM

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