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Serious questions for you:

1) Do you think the election was stolen through fraud as the president and his team claims?
2) If yes, a) where is the evidence of this, and b) why didn't they also steal the senate?
3) If no, does it seriously not concern you that the president and his team is working so hard to call into question the legitimacy of the election without providing any evidence?
4) Also if no, in the extreme and unlikely scenario that the administration successfully convinces state legislators to intervene and award the state's electors for Trump, would that finally concern you that your freedoms might ultimately be at risk if a 306 to 232 and 6 million + popular vote victory for Biden can be overturned by a sitting president.

(In response to this post by psychobilly)

Posted: 11/19/2020 at 9:14PM

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He and his lawyers think they see evidence of election fraud. -- psychobilly 11/19/2020 9:54PM

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Then you are fine with him exercising his right to challenge what his team -- psychobilly 11/19/2020 10:14PM

I’m sure he will be reasonable after he loses these challenges. -- Plano Hoo 11/19/2020 10:20PM

Um, i never said that. After he's gone, he's going to go full twitter crazy -- psychobilly 11/19/2020 10:24PM

All the more reason to see the danger in what he is doing now, except -- Plano Hoo 11/19/2020 10:26PM

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No. -- psychobilly 11/19/2020 8:46PM

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I don't think it is just the fringe anymore. ** -- JohnHoo2 11/19/2020 9:17PM

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