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This is all your fault, Waxie, don't forget that. :>)

Don't be so sure there are 3 Republican "No" votes in the Senate.

The big lie here is that the $8B over 5 years will cover the cost of the high risk pools in the states that opt out of the pre-existing condition provision. The real cost is going to be more like $200B. But it's complicated enough to understand that it gives cover to those who want to vote yes.

I think it's 60-40 that this is going to happen. bad for the country, good for the Dems in 2020 by when the disastrous results--mostly to Trump voters in red states, who are fixing to get royally screwed-- will be clear.

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Posted: 05/04/2017 at 2:45PM

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Wow. 2 Dems vote yes. Oops changed to 1 while typing ** -- TpkeHoo 05/04/2017 2:17PM

Well, that means it is now a bi-partisan effort!! ** -- FreshHoo 05/04/2017 4:04PM

It means Tpke fell again for fake news. ** -- Shenhoo 05/04/2017 7:41PM

Congrats, GOP Reps. You've accomplished exactly nothing, just as you did -- WaxHoo 05/04/2017 2:31PM

This is all your fault, Waxie, don't forget that. :>) -- southdenverhoo 05/04/2017 2:45PM

:) ** -- WaxHoo 05/04/2017 2:49PM

They are heading over to a party in the Bergdahl Garden ** -- Tuckahokie 05/04/2017 2:40PM

LOL!! ** -- WaxHoo 05/04/2017 2:41PM

Back to zero. As 216 R's came in ** -- TpkeHoo 05/04/2017 2:17PM

Nice "nah nah nah, hey hey, goodbye" singing as the vote -- hoodeyo 05/04/2017 2:34PM

Good lord, that's awful. What a clown show. ** -- BocaHoo91 05/04/2017 10:00PM

Yup- definitely a few dipshits there celebrating who knows what -- Capital City Hoo 05/04/2017 3:45PM

Apparently it was actually Democrats implying that the bill will cause -- hoodeyo 05/04/2017 4:54PM

Nevermind they lost the house to begin with because of obamacare ** -- HokieDan95 05/04/2017 11:35PM

And they'll get it back because of the repeal of Obamacare. Alanis would -- southdenverhoo 05/05/2017 02:07AM

Yes- that's what I understand -- Capital City Hoo 05/04/2017 6:41PM

We have idiots representing us, across the board. It's a damn shame. ** -- VAGentleman05 05/04/2017 5:20PM

God bless America. We're become a nation of dunces. ** -- maxaverage 05/04/2017 3:52PM

Yeah, that's what you should focus on today. ** -- hooshouse 05/04/2017 2:40PM

Wut ** -- hoodeyo 05/04/2017 2:56PM

I heard 217-213 with 20 Republicans voting No -- southdenverhoo 05/04/2017 2:27PM

It will be interesting to see if there's any electoral blowback in 2018. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/04/2017 2:30PM

Best news is it will be easy to improve on obamacare -- TomKazanski 05/04/2017 3:29PM

And maybe the millions of people in those red states who lose access -- 111Balz 05/05/2017 07:55AM

It's not going to help them. Health care is going to hurt Republicans -- hoodeyo 05/04/2017 3:06PM

You are forgetting how much peoples premiums and deductibles have soared -- TomKazanski 05/04/2017 3:31PM

Very little. Senate will bail them out by voting down dog pile. ** -- WaxHoo 05/04/2017 2:33PM

I'm not well versed on this, but seems like senate voting no would be a -- JohnHoo2 05/04/2017 2:42PM

I wonder. It might be the best case outcome for them. -- hoolstoptheheels 05/04/2017 2:47PM

You say that but the Republican senate has yet -- walkthecorner 05/04/2017 2:34PM

I thought it was 60 unless reconciliation and if reconciliation that limits -- THECZAR 05/04/2017 3:25PM

Pretty sure this is going on under reconcilliation -- hoodeyo 05/04/2017 4:15PM

Yea, so I like I said there are only certain things they can touch and -- THECZAR 05/04/2017 4:24PM

Right - not clear on # of yes votes required. ** -- walkthecorner 05/04/2017 3:55PM

50, because the VP breaks the tie. ** -- southdenverhoo 05/04/2017 2:46PM

That's ok too, politically. GOP will own it exclusively if that happens. -- WaxHoo 05/04/2017 2:43PM