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Does Society have to pay for it? -- ConnHoo 09/23/2017 5:16PM It should only be the parents decision. It’s not the same question but I -- Hoakie82 09/22/2017 4:42PM Was there something you were commenting on, or just a question? -- WahooRQ 09/22/2017 3:09PM Basically my position too, that I have zero place in that decision for -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:02PM At some point the state may be involved when the parents can no longer care -- NJHoo 09/22/2017 2:54PM Extreme example of T21 -- dajoka004 09/23/2017 06:25AM My goodness. ** -- hooshouse 09/22/2017 3:16PM So are you saying that the state should have stepped in a required an abort -- RML Hoos 09/22/2017 3:16PM I didn't say that nor intend to imply it -- NJHoo 09/22/2017 6:53PM Yeah, they're the ones calling people murderers ** -- hooshouse 09/22/2017 2:50PM Thanks for that example of belittling and dismissing their thoughts rather -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 3:05PM It's hard to have a discussion with someone who starts from the position -- hooshouse 09/22/2017 3:34PM I can't understand why the abortion question is still an issue. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 1:22PM Becasue nobody knows for certain if it's murder or not just as nobody knows -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/22/2017 2:22PM Everyone knows it is not murder. If they didn't, the pro life crowd -- Lazarus 09/22/2017 2:51PM Everyone "knows" that? ** -- hoothat 09/24/2017 01:40AM Really, I don't buy that almost everyone knows it's not murder. Most really -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/22/2017 3:12PM Speaking of murder, I have an honest question. -- Wahoos6 09/22/2017 2:44PM Cover birth control, make it readily available, make abortion a non-issue. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 2:31PM Unfortunately that's just not going to work for a large section of the -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/22/2017 3:07PM Kids? ** -- hoothat 09/24/2017 01:41AM Technically no but maturity wise yes. ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/25/2017 11:54AM Illegality won't solve that problem. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 3:51PM Seriously? It virtually readily available now. Yet plenty of abortions. ** -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:33PM Yes. I believe there are segments of the population who don't get access to -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 2:42PM Yes we are delving into more of a healthcare discussion but it's still -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:54PM I also think the notion that a business has a right to relgious expression -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 3:07PM Yes it is. So how about abortion? Since I thought that was actually what -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 4:07PM I'm not sure what you're talking about. Fat restrictions? Catholic groups? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 4:42PM I've seen many a single payer advocate argue that if taxpayers are footing -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 4:53PM That seems like a tortured analogy to me. -- BocaHoo91 09/23/2017 6:35PM Yeah, education and culture. But it won't surprise you that I think that -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 3:03PM I don't. It's not like that makes the cost go away, it just rolls it into -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 3:56PM Of course they know. Murder is a legal framework and it's never been -- hokeyhokie 09/22/2017 2:26PM Indeed there is a legal framework but there is also an ethical one as well. ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/22/2017 3:15PM That's a rather absurd argument you've made twice now. There was a time -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:39PM It was illegal, but not murder. Murder is a legal definition. ** -- hokeyhokie 09/22/2017 2:42PM I don't know, science would seem to indicate the cutoff -- hoodeyo 09/22/2017 2:21PM If it was banned outright, it would still occur, albeit in far more -- Wahoo 2007 09/22/2017 2:11PM There's completely no logical basis for this argument. Murder is illegal -- CharlestonSC 09/22/2017 2:13PM That is one argument that makes me pro-choice. The rich -- HoosWillWin 09/22/2017 2:26PM Personally I'm pro-choice until a beating heart + brainwaves ... just -- CharlestonSC 09/22/2017 2:48PM Fair enough. I think we are pretty close on this,despite some differences. ** -- HoosWillWin 09/22/2017 3:32PM Killing isn't murder unless the law says it is. There are plenty of lawful -- hokeyhokie 09/22/2017 2:38PM Re: There's completely no logical basis for this argument. Murder is illegal -- Wahoo 2007 09/22/2017 2:24PM It isn't legally murder, so what's the big deal ** -- hokeyhokie 09/22/2017 2:19PM I don't think it's illogical, if it's true the mother is in more danger -- hoodeyo 09/22/2017 2:17PM First trimester, I agree with you. After that, well, I question -- BocaHoo91 09/22/2017 2:00PM I think Louis CK is spot on ... how are you supposed to react if you -- CharlestonSC 09/22/2017 1:33PM That's pretty much my personal "line in the sand" as well... -- Hokie5150 09/22/2017 1:40PM Not to beat a dead horse, but the trimester compromise they used in Roe is -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 1:39PM That's simply untrue -- Beerman 09/22/2017 1:54PM No kidding! It's like he's never met a single issue pro-choice voter. Some -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:09PM If you're only willing to look at a binary solution, then I consider you an -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 1:56PM Wouldn't that include all pro-choicers? ** -- Hokie5150 09/22/2017 2:04PM Of course. What about compromise do you not understand? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 2:27PM I understand compromise just fine. What makes you think I don't? ** -- Hokie5150 09/22/2017 2:31PM Good, then you have your answer. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 2:32PM I think very few pro choice folks don't think there should be some -- KCHoo 09/22/2017 2:16PM I've met plenty that don't think there should be a time limit, and I can -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:27PM Never even occurred to me re: late term, good point. -- hoodeyo 09/22/2017 2:35PM All cases, not most as I understand it. Extremely difficult to have done -- Hoodafan 09/22/2017 2:46PM It's an extreme edge case that wraps everyone around the axle. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 09/22/2017 2:50PM This is about where I stand. But if we do have universal health care, then -- JohnHoo2 09/22/2017 1:53PM So basically you want to have your cake and eat it too -- Faz d. Hoo 09/22/2017 1:22PM Thankfully our constitution is not based on primitive superstitions. ** -- Hoocinogenic 09/22/2017 1:42PM So are you ok with war, knowing that there will be collateral -- HoosWillWin 09/22/2017 1:40PM He says he is pro choice so the cake analogy makes no sense -- KCHoo 09/22/2017 1:27PM South Park addressed this many years ago -- WahooMatt05 09/22/2017 2:07PM Also addressed those soulless gingers. ** -- hoodeyo 09/22/2017 2:19PM An examlpe/link or just a general thought? ** -- WahooMatt05 09/22/2017 1:12PM