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hoolstoptheheels

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I would make the same suggestion to you about due process.


For the record I am highly skeptical of the warrant and surveillance of Rosen, but nonetheless due process was followed and the court issued the warrant. The First Amendment is not a guarantee that a member of the press is never subject to criminal investigation. Judicial review is how we ensure there is no First Amendment violation (and that all other individual rights are considered). So I'm not saying that Holder didn't overreach here, but everything was above board, court reviewed, no 1st amendment issue.

Trump just called for a guy to be fired for posting misleading things about his crowd sizes (not even something that matters). And earlier, even more disturbing in my eyes, he called on the NFL to cut all the kneelers. And he did not get judicial or any other sort of review to sanity check his reasoning, and remind him that there is this thing called a 1st Amendment.

Trump isn't actually violating the 1A IMO unless he does something like have an audit launched against the WAPO to force their hand, but he sure is showing his lack of respect for it, which should surprise nobody.

(In response to this post by TomKazanski)

Posted: 12/11/2017 at 1:12PM



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