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Seattle .Hoo

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That's what happens in countries with no government or corrupt government


and no regulations; aka in the parlance of the GOP, "freedom." Also, I'm sorry, but I can understand what military guys in a freaking war zone or disaster area call it. I'm sure there are plenty of unprintable euphemisms both printable and unprintable and perhaps even justified from a certain perspective. (Interestingly, my naval veteran father never referred to war-torn Japan or the Philippines that way, nor in later years the Middle Eastern countries he worked in the private sector.) What you don't want is the President of the United States making these kinds of statements about other sovereign nations or, by obvious implication, races. I think he has a different responsibility, don't you?

While we're at it, I can't imagine why some of those folks would want to get out, can you? I was talking about this with my wife the other day. My family came from Scotland sometime prior to the Revolution for more political freedom and for economic opportunity. My mom's family came from Germany looking for religious liberty. A good friend of mine is from a family who fled political persecution in China in the 1940's. Yet another from Sicily during the great wave of Italian migration in the 1880's. Another from the Ortega government in Nicaragua. My wife's uncle came here to avoid Pancho Villa in Mexico. Every person in America has similar stories. That's kind of the point isn't it of this whole American experience?

I don't know about you but growing up I was taught the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

It didn't add, "unless you're from a shithole country." Some of us, let by this President, seem to think these ideals are now trite or cornball. Other countries no longer appear to merit our compassion even when it involves our own best interests unrelated to immigration, evidenced by our cuts to foreign aid. Instead they are just other places to hold in contempt or to exploit or to bomb or invade as we see fit.

(In response to this post by Charleston Cav)

Posted: 01/14/2018 at 09:01AM



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Not everyone hated Trump’s s*hole comment -- WahooMatt05 01/13/2018 8:10PM
  The old switch to stupid. Good morning, tuck. ** -- WahooRQ 01/14/2018 09:37AM
  Not the same word or context. This isn’t hard boys. -- hooyorkcity 01/14/2018 09:07AM
  Ahhhh...Nuance...the progessive's friend ** -- Tuckahokie 01/14/2018 09:58AM
  That's a cop out....to put it kindly. -- Chuck Taylor 01/14/2018 11:59AM
  Thinkers from both sides. -- Shenhoo 01/14/2018 10:54AM
  It ain’t nuance hokie. You were called out -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 10:50AM
  Tuck, this isn’t progressive or conservative. -- hooyorkcity 01/14/2018 10:02AM
  It’s something beyond silly ** -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 09:08AM
  I’m trying to be nice on the Lord’s day. ** -- hooyorkcity 01/14/2018 09:10AM
  If you don’t understand the difference -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 09:05AM
  When people, especially the media like you, you can get away -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/14/2018 09:00AM
  I luved it! I've been to Africa, and it is a shit hole -- Charleston Cav 01/14/2018 08:25AM
  'Cause Africa is a country. Right? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 08:28AM
  Makes you wonder why people choose to -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 09:07AM
  I never said that. I agree its a pity & shame -- Charleston Cav 01/14/2018 09:28AM
  I understand why people want to leave their shithole -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/14/2018 09:28AM
  Good, then how about you base it on reality? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 10:20AM
  Or this one.... -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 11:21AM
  Or this one... -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 11:12AM
  But since you asked... -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 11:10AM
  I'm not the one making the claim they are a net drain. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 10:55AM
  Sure: the US doesn't need bodies anymore. -- psychobilly 01/14/2018 10:24AM
  And we are selective. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 10:26AM
  Cool story, bro. ** -- fphoo 01/14/2018 08:52AM
  Oh shit, the daily stormer! -- hoothat 01/13/2018 10:34PM
  Not news. We know who stands with him. -- Shenhoo 01/13/2018 11:45PM
  Smh... ** -- hoothat 01/14/2018 12:20AM
  As my coworkers and I joked about it in the office.... -- psychobilly 01/13/2018 9:12PM
  Politicians have no intention of -- walkthecorner 01/13/2018 10:21PM
  The significance is bigger than “shithole.” -- WahooMatt05 01/13/2018 9:49PM
  The hoods and the ghettos, you betcha ** -- Charleston Cav 01/14/2018 08:26AM
  Zing!** -- HokieDan95 01/13/2018 11:11PM
  I think there is a reason that had not been -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 09:10AM
  Sure Ballz, unlike you, I can actually cite facts. -- psychobilly 01/14/2018 09:21AM
  You should cling to that. ** -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 09:30AM
  There's the ballz we love. -- psychobilly 01/14/2018 09:32AM
  Well yeah...I mean...they're all good at math. Right? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/14/2018 08:26AM
  Wtf are you talking about. -- hoothat 01/13/2018 10:16PM
  I guess he’s from the Upper Westside or something. -- Hokieesith 01/13/2018 10:20PM
  Ahh. well I am just a hillbilly hayseed -- hoothat 01/13/2018 10:24PM
  Nooooooooooooooooooooo! -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:55PM
  Oh you dun fucked up now boy. ** -- psychobilly 01/13/2018 11:13PM
  Self-awareness. First step to evolution. -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:39PM
  So i am ahead of you? ** -- hoothat 01/13/2018 11:27PM
  You seem very tolerant... ** -- hoothat 01/13/2018 10:14PM
  It’s a joke. Sarcasm. Keep up you two. ** -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:28PM
  It is? was it supposed to be funny? ** -- hoothat 01/13/2018 10:35PM
  Well you should know since you told us how funny you are. -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:37PM
  He’s just doing his usual trolling ** -- 111Balz 01/14/2018 10:52AM
  ...are you ok? ** -- hoothat 01/13/2018 11:30PM
  Dude...you can't say that in public. ** -- psychobilly 01/13/2018 10:04PM
  This comment seems clever only to idiots. -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:26PM
  So it makes me immature -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 10:51PM
  It’s so simple. Yet so hard. -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 11:14PM
  Me too. -- psychobilly 01/13/2018 11:22PM
  So two things: -- hooyorkcity 01/14/2018 08:56AM
  If noone cares then why are you responding. ** -- psychobilly 01/13/2018 11:14PM
  Because we hold you to a higher standard than -- hooyorkcity 01/13/2018 11:18PM
  And this why trump may lose relection -- walkthecorner 01/13/2018 10:31PM
  It will be because of both. His policy and his character. ** -- southdenverhoo 01/14/2018 08:54AM
  Only if he caves on DACA. -- psychobilly 01/14/2018 09:00AM
  The lack of equivalence doesn't work for me -- Faz d. Hoo 01/13/2018 9:18PM
  Among the boys, not for the public. ** -- Hoogle.com 01/13/2018 9:12PM

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