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Wasn't there a Planned Parenthood or similar case where PP sued and -- 81_Hokie 06/26/2018 4:53PM I think the ruling was the opposite -- WahooMatt05 06/26/2018 5:03PM That sure sounds like it. Not the first time I am confunsed. ** -- 81_Hokie 06/26/2018 6:35PM No problem -- WahooMatt05 06/26/2018 9:09PM You're a good person 81. For a hokie :>) ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:46PM I think Matt is right -- NJHoo 06/26/2018 8:45PM Ginsburg and Breyer should have stepped down under Obama. GOP presidents -- Hoo TV 06/26/2018 3:17PM They all thought SHE would win. ** -- ConnHoo 06/26/2018 9:12PM "SHE" wasn't nominated until long after the GOP was ALREADY stonewalling -- Hoo TV 06/26/2018 11:23PM Well, let's be clear...the Dems had the opportunity for a nuclear option -- Hoo23 06/26/2018 11:47PM Not by 2016. They could have done it any other time, but decided to keep -- HooBear 06/27/2018 01:13AM Welp...maybe they believed Obama's radical transformation would continue ** -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 3:24PM Radical transformation? lol ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:32PM ...actually it was fundamentally transform...my bad ** -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 3:50PM Perhaps you would share with us what fundamental -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:55PM Gruber-Care was his main triumph (with help from the Court, no less). The -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 4:10PM You mean the ACA which was originally proposed -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:14PM If you are referring to the HEART bill they were only vaguely similar -- Hoo23 06/26/2018 11:29PM Newt pushed it really hard. Heritage developed it. And Romney enacted it. -- HooBear 06/27/2018 01:51AM It really was awful to give medical coverage to the undeserving poor ** -- NJHoo 06/26/2018 4:45PM I prefer to call them, “the poors” ** -- hooyorkcity 06/26/2018 6:13PM Hoo TV asserted the Breyer and Ginsburg should have stepped down -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 4:24PM Okay, I see the llinkage there. I was focused on the -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:18PM No biggie...ditto on the beers and the sentiment...plenty of good stuff -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 10:39PM WTF man! Are you on your period or something. Hear cranberry juice helps 😉** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 06/26/2018 8:47PM That would expand my "give a shit" capacity, right? :>) ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:49PM I'd start with an official declaration that a particular law on the books -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:06PM What law and proclomation was that? ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:08PM I am referring of course to DACA -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:18PM Well I assumed it was that or pot or immigration -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:21PM Well, in the case of DACA, it wasn't the deal that he would go after the -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 10:23PM Was it? ** -- 111Balz 06/27/2018 08:35AM Which was first, DACA or pot? It's one thing to "prioritize prosecution" -- 81_Hokie 06/26/2018 4:35PM It clearly depends. For example, the Trump administration's hands were -- Hoo TV 06/26/2018 5:20PM Es diferente ** -- WahooMatt05 06/26/2018 5:36PM Time and tide wait for no man ** -- Hoo TV 06/26/2018 3:27PM They certainly did -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:25PM Our parents and grandparents learned the hard way what happens when history -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:29PM The Prohibitionists also thought they were on the right side of history -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:35PM The Prohibitionists were attempting to legislate morality. They haven't -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:51PM That and protect public health -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:23PM A lot of moralists use public health concerns. Also, I don't know about -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:34PM Erring on the side of more freedom is always a good thing IMO -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:44PM I don’t think you can ever completely -- Hoojack 06/26/2018 5:15PM Not really accurate of you to group alcohol, tobacco and weed. The number -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:55PM Weed kills zero? Maybe not direct cause of death...but plenty of weed -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 4:59PM Really? any stats you can quote, and link to? ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:40PM Has never seemed to be much of a problem, but would bet many "weed related -- WahooRQ 06/26/2018 6:43PM Null set = "stoned speeding tickets" ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:47PM Unless they're for driving too slowly** -- Hoo TV 06/27/2018 12:43AM Even allowing for that, how many of the 37K deaths every year in car wrecks -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:09PM Yeah not sure exactly what point he was trying to support ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:00PM They're still around. They call themselves Drug Warriors now. ** -- Beerman 06/26/2018 3:37PM Sure the citizens should decide by -- walkthecorner 06/26/2018 3:37PM So, when Congress passes laws, the President should enforce them? ** -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 4:13PM I am sure this a gotcha moment but -- walkthecorner 06/26/2018 4:23PM That's a great deal of power to give to one man...doesn't seem particularly -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 4:54PM Unfortunately, both are problematic -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:24PM I agree was off the cusp response since -- walkthecorner 06/26/2018 5:10PM The Executive would have that opportunity by vetoing the legislation. -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 5:15PM Would if legislation was passed before -- walkthecorner 06/26/2018 5:22PM Is the right thing ignoring the law? Again, I don't think it is wise to -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 5:28PM Agree 100%. What of course are penalties -- walkthecorner 06/26/2018 5:33PM I would think that failing to uphold the law could (should?) be an -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 5:57PM Agreed. ** -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 4:56PM Uh, that's not what that law did -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:03PM OMG. That sounds like a major destruction of consumer protections. Run -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 3:18PM Is that the next version of Noooooooooo!!!!! Run for your lives!!!!! ** -- Hokieesith 06/26/2018 4:45PM I know you are being sarcastic, but read the opinion. -- BonsackHoo 06/26/2018 3:46PM I'm not terribly concerned. And I think a lot consumer protection is -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 4:33PM The fundamental question is whether legislatures have the right to make -- BonsackHoo 06/26/2018 5:57PM I guess it depends on the nature of the consumer protection for me. -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 6:37PM Sorry for the late reply -- BonsackHoo 06/27/2018 6:29PM I'm one of those who thinks that without consumer protections corporations -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:38PM I'm still not terribly concerned, and don't see that because a -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 4:51PM LOL!I'm looking for that warning label next time I buy a Red Bull! Actually -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 5:04PM LOL! Well that's a goofy-ass lawsuit for sure. But you can't depend on -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:57PM You don't see a slippery slope going in the other direction in this -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 5:07PM The argument in this case wasn't freedom of religion (at least I don't -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:15PM I'd be fine if California wanted to make these clinics disclose that they -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 5:19PM Well I'd be fine with the state of California going after the CPCs and -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:23PM What exactly would be fraud? We are a clinic that does not believe in -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 7:51PM Because it is legal? ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 9:00PM What does that have to do with anything? ** -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 9:03PM Because this seems to be about provision of info to -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 9:13PM Acupuncture is also legal. If I talk to my physician about my back pain -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 9:21PM It's how they represent themselves. Read about these places some time. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 8:47PM Here is one that is less upfront about their mission -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 9:02PM And this article. Keep in mind that some of these farce organizations get -- Seattle .Hoo 06/27/2018 12:45AM It's fine to look up their websites. But I was thinking more a description -- Seattle .Hoo 06/27/2018 12:41AM But I think it's important to look at the individual CPCs. For a CPC -- BocaHoo91 06/27/2018 07:43AM Here's one of the first hits when I googled "crisis pregnancy center" -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 8:57PM Except that crisis pregnancy centers are notorious liars who pretend to be -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:17PM How many women these days don't already know abortion is an option? Seems -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 3:35PM And yet they blatantly lie and misrepresent themselves. Advertisers aren't -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:47PM Fraud is fraud. 1A doesn't protect you for that. I'm not seeing how letting -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 3:53PM So, why are you defending this particular Court decision? You do see the -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:56PM How IS it legislating from the bench? It's expressly striking down a piece -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:11PM Gee thanks for the history lesson. Pray tell, what right to free speech is -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:24PM No I don't really see the negative implications, nor do I think this is -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 4:05PM I'm curious. What do you think about mandated warning labels? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 4:25PM I think they're hugely important. Think of how many lives have been -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 5:22PM Dayum! :D ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:24PM Or this one. How would anyone know that a carton of 6 eggs -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 5:23PM That example looks like it might be from Ireland. Not applicable. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:26PM Largely unnecessary. If the public demands it, producers will provide it. -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 5:13PM I fully blame ambulance chasers like RQ for them. :-) Why? Are you -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 4:59PM I don't where adoption comes into this argument. It isn't a medical -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 5:19PM Carrying a child to term is a “medical procedure”?!? ** -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 5:53PM Medical procedures are involved the whole way and there is risk. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 8:49PM Never heard of the "born again virgin" movement? ** -- SchmHoo 06/26/2018 3:47PM Sure, but that doesn't wipe their memory from knowing abortion is an option ** -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 3:49PM They may not know what their options are either medically or under the law. -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:54PM Well let's hope at least a very bright light has shined -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:22PM Seems fair to get rid of that law too -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:31PM You're attempting humor, right? The purpose here is -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:40PM Because.....freedom. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:49PM What? You think there are abortion clinics that have a moral objection..... -- SchmHoo 06/26/2018 3:37PM I sure don't think there are. I just said "if." -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:46PM Also, since you clearly believe that no abortion clinic has any objection -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:54PM One is a medical issue. The other is not. That's why. -- SchmHoo 06/26/2018 4:10PM Because this is about giving people in crisis -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:07PM Homeopathic remedies are legal. I suppose you think a doctor should be -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 4:20PM No, why would you ask that? ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:22PM Because it's about giving people in crisis -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 10:13PM Yep, smh at one of the most assinine things ever said here -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:43PM You just have to read for comprehension and you'd get the whole point -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:47PM Don't even try to dig out of this one. You were clear ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:52PM Yes, I was, you just decided to read something different into a very clear -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:58PM Sure, I'm sure no one else took it the way I did ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:11PM It was clear to me. Not sure why you and Scmoozie struggled. If a pregnancy -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 3:58PM Lol. whatever hooda, la di da la di da ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:00PM Just trying to help you "read for understanding". Remain ignorant if you -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 4:08PM The blind leading those who can see? No thanks ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 4:09PM You sure saw a lot "that night." ** -- hoothat 06/26/2018 4:48PM Wel, I can see what you are. Clearly. and I bet -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:24PM Maybe he prefers when Sabrina Erdely helps him see. ** -- Hoodafan 06/26/2018 4:51PM Yeah, but half the country is applauding while their states shut down -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 3:28PM Lots of forced speech is required -- WahooMatt05 06/26/2018 3:16PM Big difference -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/26/2018 3:23PM Maybe Planned Parenthood v Casey is a better example -- WahooMatt05 06/26/2018 4:58PM Destroying consumer protections sounds such much more dire and fits the -- Tuckahokie 06/26/2018 3:05PM And besides it only efects women having a pregnancy -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 3:19PM How does it effect women having a pregnancy crisis? If a woman wants -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 4:22PM So do you look that up in the yellow pages? ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:25PM Www.plannedparenthood.org -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 8:32PM Agree. everyone has access to online info. There is no reason -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:36PM Glad to see we agree ** -- BocaHoo91 06/26/2018 8:40PM Hey, that's great! ** -- 111Balz 06/26/2018 8:41PM Boo hoo snowflake ** -- TomKazanski 06/26/2018 2:22PM Wow, for someone #winning so much, you seem to be on tilt ** -- EspressHoo 06/26/2018 2:54PM Yeah this was an absolutely horrible decision, too. Add to it the punting -- Seattle .Hoo 06/26/2018 1:41PM What makes it a horrible decision? ** -- Hokie5150 06/26/2018 3:30PM
