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hoolstoptheheels

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But he's the president, so we don't have a choice.


There is no mechanism to suspend the role of the president as the head of the exec branch and the commander in chief (impeachment aside, which is unlikely). Is this the thing to complain about? Our militaries speaking with each other can only reduce the chance of war, especially from the fog of war, and there are theatres around the world where that could happen. Syria, Ukraine, Africa - there are places where our forces are in close proximity.

I don't want Trump negotiating on my behalf either, and I am deeply opposed to his performance this week. He undermined NATO, undermined the govt of the UK and EU while he was at it, and saved all of his praise for the dictator who most wants to undermine all those institutions, and the world order generally that has made the world so much more peaceful since WW II than it was before. And I object to repub tribalism that seems to prevent most repubs from criticizing these things, or his trade war, which are completely opposed to pre-Trump repub values, even if they support his tax cut, SC appts, and immigration policies.

Dems need to be on the lookout for the same tribalism. The good news is for all Trump's objectionable conduct this week, he hasn't changed the American commitment to NATO, to participation in NATO forces, commitment to the sanctions imposed on the Russians after their Ukraine interventions. So if one thing that comes out of the meeting with Putin is more military to military communication, that just seems to reduce chances of accidental flare ups. I'd call that a silver lining.

(In response to this post by WahooMatt05)

Posted: 07/17/2018 at 11:22AM



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Uh, what did Trump agree to yesterday with Putin? -- WahooMatt05 07/17/2018 10:42AM
  So Nuclear Peace Talks are now bad? ** -- ConnHoo 07/17/2018 12:06PM
  Their derangement is unmatched ** -- TomKazanski 07/17/2018 11:43AM
  Sorry that we are patriots ** -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 11:55AM
  Did you have some extra straw laying around today? -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 12:16PM
  Hooda calls that lunch. -- WahooRQ 07/17/2018 12:22PM
  I think i saw an ad for those on FOX yesterday ** -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 12:23PM
  Is that what was suggested? Yeah, maybe not. ** -- Hoodafan 07/17/2018 11:42AM
  But he's the president, so we don't have a choice. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/17/2018 11:22AM
  It's about how dems stop being bit players. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/17/2018 12:25PM
  I agree with that last line. But it is inherently political. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/17/2018 12:41PM
  America can be committed to sanctions all we want -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 11:31AM
  Or work constructively towards making a change at the top. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/17/2018 11:51AM
  Total agreement ** -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 11:52AM
  I'm certainly not advocating for that -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 12:18PM
  Honestly, I don't think anyone can make that statement. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/17/2018 12:28PM
  Only half of Alaska ** -- NJHoo 07/17/2018 10:57AM
  Hopefully that would include the Palin Clan half. :-) ** -- jdubforwahoowa 07/17/2018 11:13AM
  The half that has the most Natural Gas for Angela ** -- Tuckahokie 07/17/2018 11:18AM
  No, they can stay. -- HowieT3 07/17/2018 11:24AM
  Nice! -- jdubforwahoowa 07/17/2018 10:58AM
  Why did he not trust Pompeo, Kelly, Bolton, etc -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 10:46AM
  *Tommy and Hooda ** -- wahoo138 07/17/2018 11:01AM

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