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What's this?

Not as bad as some, e.g., Pence (link)

But then who does this surprise?

From the link below:

“The vast majority never show up for their hearing, you know, a year, 18 months, down the road.”

— Vice President Pence, in an interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” June 23, 2019

Pence: “What we want: To end the days where people believe they can come into the country, make a claim of asylum from oppression or deprivation or violence in Central America or elsewhere, and then be released into the country on their own recognizance only to vanish into the nation.”

Jake Tapper, CNN: “Well, most of them do show up to their hearings.”

Pence: “Ninety percent of the people never show up for their hearing in the months ahead. The overwhelming majority, plus-90 percent, don’t show up.”

— Exchange on CNN’s “State of the Union,” June 23, 2019

[Post edited by Hoo TV at 07/04/2019 11:51AM]

(In response to this post by Shenhoo)

Link: Fact Checker - How many migrants show up for immigration court hearings?

Posted: 07/04/2019 at 11:49AM

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Stats show that up to 40% don't show for hearings. Also is there a judicial -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 09:56AM

11% (2017). I-862 IN ABSENTIA ORDERS (link) -- Hoo TV 07/04/2019 11:23AM

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28% of all cases, 11% of asylum cases (2017). You're arguing (link) -- Hoo TV 07/04/2019 11:34AM

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The immigrants don't put up the bond. The churches do. ** -- Hoogle.com 07/04/2019 09:53AM

Then there's no incentive for the immigrants to show at their hearings. ** -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 09:58AM

Then, a lot of churches and welfare agencies lose money. ** -- Hoogle.com 07/04/2019 10:34AM

So any other ideas for ensuring that people show up at their hearings? ** -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 10:39AM

Hold them. ** -- Hoogle.com 07/04/2019 10:56AM

Sure there is. To procure asylum. ** -- Shenhoo 07/04/2019 10:29AM

Then why do 40% not show up? Don't they want asylum? ** -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 10:34AM

Better question. Why do you resort to bogus, um, metrics? ** -- Shenhoo 07/04/2019 11:36AM

Again, why do people not show up if they all want asylum? ** -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 11:49AM

For many reasons, but mostly because they lack legal counsel (link) -- Hoo TV 07/04/2019 11:58AM

No one claimed "all." You just made up something again. ** -- Shenhoo 07/04/2019 11:52AM

Not as bad as some, e.g., Pence (link) -- Hoo TV 07/04/2019 11:49AM

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The post you responded to began “Immigration.” Was concentration camps -- Sabremetrician 07/04/2019 08:48AM

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Defend? No, just stating facts. ** -- Hokieesith 07/04/2019 08:52AM

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