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He never even looked at Ukraine collusion with Team Hillary. It's not even

in dispute that it happened, so not exactly "Russian propaganda" . That Politico article about it was before Trump even took office. (not that there weren't many more articles about it)

I think it's perfectly fine to ask Ukraine to work with Barr in investigating that. It's fine to ask China to help with any corruption investigation, although to my knowledge there is not yet any such investigation, and they have entered into no agreement to cooperate with any investigation as Ukraine has.

I know you desperately want to frame this as "interfering in our election" being the only motive, so you can ignore election meddling and corruption. But are you suggesting, that when Biden finally realizes the fork has indeed been inserted, that it would be OK to investigate these things, but because he's running for POTUS it's not?

(In response to this post by WahooMatt05)

Posted: 10/04/2019 at 10:43AM

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So I guess Trump is running on YES COLLUSION now? -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 09:36AM

He's always been ok with it. "Russia, if you're listening..." -- Hooddihsm 10/04/2019 10:01AM

They tried to play it off like it was a joke. Now that lie has been killed -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 10:07AM

Just like Team Hillary happily accepted Ukraine's help in '16? -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:28AM

Let's assume for a moment that Hillary asked for and got foreign assistance -- Late 80s Hokie 10/04/2019 11:10AM

My argument is that if there was Ukranian collusion, and there's little -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 11:38AM

2 wrongs make a right? Where did Trump ask for foreign assistance -- hoothat 10/04/2019 11:24AM

LOL! So investigating collusion is now collusion? You got him now!!! ** -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 09:57AM

^^^ failed Jedi mind trick. Zero integrity ** -- WaxHoo 10/04/2019 10:11AM

Wake us when you replace these tired posts. I actually want to be woke! ** -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:51AM

Tell ya what. You stop using that juvenile device & I’ll stop calling it -- WaxHoo 10/04/2019 12:29PM

^^^ telling us you’re not in control of your own intellect? -- WaxHoo 10/04/2019 11:00AM

Trump asked an ally to investigate a political rival -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 10:00AM

He asked Ukraine to cooperate with Barr in investigating election meddling, -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:07AM

Stop peddling this horseshit. It is quite obvious at this point that Trump -- Maupin233 10/04/2019 10:33AM

I've never claimed Trump won't happily watch Biden crash and burn. That's -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:48AM

Prove it. ** -- hoothat 10/04/2019 10:42AM

Not about proof at this point. Its about Republican senators unwillingness -- Maupin233 10/04/2019 10:45AM

So, you're just going to with partisan anger. Got it. -- hoothat 10/04/2019 11:03AM

Call it what you want, but that doesn't make the statement any less true. ** -- Maupin233 10/04/2019 11:06AM

Yeah, it does. -- hoothat 10/04/2019 11:07AM

You're right. Trump is the only one who profits from feckless GOP Senators ** -- Maupin233 10/04/2019 11:35AM

I think you know where I think you can shove your opinion. -- hoothat 10/04/2019 11:41AM

Dude, we've read the summary the WH released. We've listened -- 111Balz 10/04/2019 10:14AM

There's the "summary" lie again. I knew I could count on you. ** -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:27AM

Mueller investigated election meddling. He wrote a report -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 10:13AM

Mueller did not investigate Ukrainian collusion at all. ** -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:26AM

Because he concluded it was the Russians -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 10:34AM

He never even looked at Ukraine collusion with Team Hillary. It's not even -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:43AM

Trump is asking for a political rival to be investigated. That's corrupt -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 10:47AM

Well done. I think you hit all the heavily spun talking points in that one. ** -- Hoodafan 10/04/2019 10:50AM

Okay, well what specific corruption does Trump want to stop in Ukraine? -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 11:06AM

If there was anyone who would have a Colonel Jessup moment, Donald would... -- Chuck Taylor 10/04/2019 09:54AM

He's channelling his inner CDR Queeg right now. ** -- BambooHoo 10/04/2019 10:08AM

That's exactly what it was -- WahooMatt05 10/04/2019 09:59AM