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So let's stick to what the investigations have reported

Much of the dossier has been supported by other evidence collected. Some has been proven to be untrue. A fair amount remains unproven either way.

And yes,per the IG's report, four items from the dossier were key support for one of the four critical reasons for, and identified in, the FISA applications. And the IG says that the FBI did not adequately independently confirm all of those four items from the dossier and they did not consistently provide information that might have contradicted some of those dossier reportings.

None of that requires mea culpas from anyone. You should not be doing a victory dance. The report DOES not indicate any "deep state" or otherwise politcally motivated campaign to "get trump" despite what you have been insisting as a trump parrot.

the dossier was not a factor in the original approval to commence an investigation, nor was it a material factor in Mueller's findings, none of which you have read.

(In response to this post by Hoodafan)

Posted: 12/10/2019 at 08:08AM

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That is history parrot. Not the altered version trump feeds you ** -- 111Balz 12/10/2019 08:31AM

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