It still cost her in 2016.

it was part of the reason many on the left couldn't be bothered to show up and vote IMO. We blame a lot of it on "Benghazi!!!" and "But Her E-mails!!!" and the media's focus on these tempests in teapots but there were some things she can't blame on the media.

I would say the Iraq War resolution, the speaking fee money she took from Goldman Sachs et al, and the self-inflicted "basket of deplorables" business were enough to swing a sufficient number of Obama voters in PA, MI, and WI (or even just un-motivate a sufficient number of them from standing in line to vote)

In our little sandbox, the Iraq War resolution specifically kept Waxie from voting for her, in a swing state where his vote meant something. So yeah, it was part of the reason she lost. I'm voting for the Diem candidate no matter wh=t, but I think a yea vote on the Iraq War resolution ought to STILL be a disqualifier, because it is a proven turnout reducer and this is a turnout election above all else.

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