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What? There's literally video of Trump comparing COVID-19 ...

to the common flu, a democratic / MSM political narrative, and lying about containment from late January to mid March. Trumo even praised the Chinese Govenment data on COVID-19 in late January,

Trump was forced to be transparent after seeing New Yorkers in body bags at Elmhurst Hospital. He's still lying about testing when local hospital doctors / administrators are telling us we don't have enough test. Where's this vaccine or quick tests he's been "promising?" Why is he listening to a social scientist on the efficacy of a certain drug over a distinguished infectious medical doctor?

Execution? The most basic response from a potential pandemic is to prioritize testing. We had our first known positive test on 1/20. 2.5 months later we're still struggling to find test kits. Guess who also had their first known positive on 1/20 in their country ... South Korea.

From late January to mid March, the Trump Adminstration downplayed COVID-19 for months. And if you believe the Senators who sold their shares after late January / early February US Intelligence briefings ... they were also alarmed. If Trump did know this (he claimed he knew a pandemic was very possible very early), he purposely lied to America ... putting American lives in danger all because of his selfish reelection motive.

We can have a rational debate about the stimulus package and the US government's response post 3/15. That I agree. However, make no mistake ... Trump and his adminstration screwed up due to selfish motives from late January to mid March regarding COVID-19. There's no way to spin it. Even Trump agrees the buck stops with the President in times of pandemics.

(In response to this post by Folly Beach Hokie)

Posted: 04/08/2020 at 10:35AM

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NBC once again accepts China’s assertions to “get Trump”. -- JMHoo 04/07/2020 10:18PM

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Yes, you seem to think showing a counter cancels the aggregate bias. -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:33AM

I’m not sure what their real numbers are and I’m not sure I care but they -- KCHoo 04/08/2020 09:23AM

Im not sure any of that is "obvious" in my opinion. -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 09:29AM

Well lets say they obviously think they have it under control at the -- KCHoo 04/08/2020 09:48AM

Again, i'm not tring to be difficult KC, i just dont think they obviously -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 09:52AM

Here's the bigger issue. We can't trust either government. -- Blah 04/08/2020 09:37AM

LOL. And China's propaganda snags another useful idiot.** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 10:09AM

Hey Dumbass: who said I believe a word that China said? -- Blah 04/08/2020 10:13AM

If you think China AND the US can't be trusted, you fell for Chinese prop. -- hoothat 04/08/2020 10:15AM

LOL. Ther person who can't read calls another poster a "fucking idiot." ** -- Blah 04/08/2020 10:40AM

I can read just fine. What you posted was stupid. ** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 10:41AM

LOL. You can't read. Not once did I say I believed the Chinese Government. ** -- Blah 04/08/2020 11:08AM

I never said you did. Learn to read.** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 11:23AM

"China propaganda snags another useful idiot." That's you right above. -- Blah 04/08/2020 11:26AM

Yup. That is what I said. -- hoothat 04/08/2020 11:30AM

LOL. What do you think, "you fell for 'Chinese' propaganda" means? -- Blah 04/08/2020 12:02PM

...No, you are. You have proved it repeatedly. ** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 1:11PM

Are you really comparing the Chinese gov and US? -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 09:47AM

Why yes, yes he is. That is how deranged the left has become. But remember -- Hoodafan 04/08/2020 11:16AM

Yes, I'm really comparing Trump's administration veracity to Red China ... -- Blah 04/08/2020 09:54AM

That seems to be evidence of what I said, not what you said... -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:06AM

I think he was comparing the Chinese government and Trump ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 09:54AM

I think you're wrong...see his most recent post -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:01AM

And where do you get your information on Chinese death count? ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 10:07AM

Our intel and satellite has widely reported about the crematoriums. -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:16AM

Here is the best report I have found and it doesn’t suggest the magnitude -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 10:23AM

From business insider... -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:31AM

From the demon of this thread itself, NBC. -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 11:14AM

I saw you post that elsewhere in the thread. It's certainly possible, but -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 11:19AM

It’s not about dumb. It’s about a bias in favor of grievance. -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 11:31AM

I was mostly joking in the last sentence. I didn't think you were actually -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 11:33AM

Sorry Balz, i cant read NYT anymore because i'm out of freebbie's. -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:26AM

All of the coronavirus articles are free. I’m not a subscriber either ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 12:03PM

So tell me how the Trump Adminsitration has been truthful about COVID-19? -- Blah 04/08/2020 10:04AM

Sure...his message has 180'd as it relates to expectations. It was widely -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:13AM

What? There's literally video of Trump comparing COVID-19 ... -- Blah 04/08/2020 10:35AM

Did we have approved tests? As i understand it, that was part of the -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:39AM

Yes, I do know of the CDC issues regarding testing. That said ... -- Blah 04/08/2020 11:07AM

Give me a break...I suggest you do more reading. You linked a BS editoiral -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 11:12AM

Then tell me why South Korea's testing was so far ahead of ours? -- Blah 04/08/2020 11:14AM

Blah, do you actually have a point? It seems to be that Trump was -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 11:30AM

He didn't do a 180 when others did -- Fuzzy Dunlop 04/08/2020 12:12PM

First, I did not call Trump a racist for closing travel from China. I ... -- Blah 04/08/2020 12:00PM

Blah, again....you've done a bang up job of convinving me that they -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 12:25PM

I do appreciate your rational response. I respect posters .... -- Blah 04/08/2020 12:41PM

Xi is proud of you. ** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 10:39AM

The Chinese Communists are honest...have been for 75+ years ** -- Tuckahokie 04/08/2020 09:17AM

How long has Trump been dishonest, tuck? ** -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 09:31AM

Welp...assuming Trump was dishonest as an infant, he and the Chi Comms are -- Tuckahokie 04/08/2020 09:45AM

You're right. The TRUTH matters. Where have I heard that before? ** -- Blah 04/08/2020 09:26AM

Nice passive aggressive style points. Beat up the strawman. -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 09:25AM

Laura has no credibility on this matter. She was one of the main ... -- Blah 04/08/2020 08:50AM

Just following the lead of the president -- Fuzzy Dunlop 04/08/2020 09:38AM

This, or any other. ** -- SixerHoo 04/08/2020 09:09AM

Click on “Mainstream media echoing...” ** -- JMHoo 04/08/2020 08:46AM

At this point, we’ve known of this for more than 3 months -- Plano Hoo 04/08/2020 08:35AM

Seems "aspirational" to me -- wahoo138 04/08/2020 08:21AM

I think this is a false Trumpie grievance. The suggestion by that tweet -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 07:31AM

Yep just the usual sunny hopefulness from the media on anything Trump. -- Hoodafan 04/08/2020 08:33AM

What does that matter? Waiting one second on how the media -- Plano Hoo 04/08/2020 08:39AM

A convenient position when the vast majority is a PR firm for the party you -- Hoodafan 04/08/2020 09:14AM

Stipulated.China is lying. How are we better off in fighting the virus now? ** -- Plano Hoo 04/08/2020 10:38AM

I'll actually jump in here... -- Folly Beach Hokie 04/08/2020 10:47AM

I don't see how the media is painting China favorably. -- Plano Hoo 04/08/2020 11:02AM

Another post from you that shows you don’t know shit from shinola -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 10:17AM

This tweet? I don’t think it would be any different. -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 08:38AM

Stay safe in NY ** -- Plano Hoo 04/08/2020 08:40AM

Thanks. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 08:44AM

Wait? All that victimhood----from a tweet? -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 08:03AM

Red State...lol ** -- Hooddihsm 04/08/2020 08:26AM

Yes. The Right Wing Institutionalization of Victimhood. -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 09:08AM

China and Fauci made Trump not care. It's all their fault -- Fuzzy Dunlop 04/08/2020 10:02AM

As usual you’re only reading what you want to be true -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:09AM

People in this country are very addicted to grievance. -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 07:41AM

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Yes (link) -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 08:42AM

A free press has constitutional protection to benefit America. -- Chuck Taylor 04/08/2020 08:39AM

America First? Wow... ** -- Tuckahokie 04/08/2020 08:41AM

Then you may not understand the practical aspect either. -- Chuck Taylor 04/08/2020 09:19AM

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I'm certain that you aren't persuadable. -- Chuck Taylor 04/08/2020 09:40AM

Trump pissed away months and you don't care. The truth, not a canard. ** -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 09:29AM

Why should they? Or any other country other than their own? -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 08:16AM

Seriously? So bad actions and misinformation by foreign governments should -- Tuckahokie 04/08/2020 08:33AM

You dropped ....with the same energy. -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 08:40AM

Concerning information provided by the Chinese Communists...yes, their -- Tuckahokie 04/08/2020 08:44AM

Oh, boo hoo. I see Politico has it right. ** -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 09:02AM

Yes, Comrade. ** -- JMHoo 04/08/2020 07:18AM

Your insight is matched only by your wit ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:25AM

Nooooooooooooooooooooo! You got 'em n . No, you dont** -- WaxHoo 04/07/2020 11:29PM

^^^Xi's willful bitch. ** -- Hoodafan 04/08/2020 06:59AM

Complicit not idiots ** -- HokieDan95 04/07/2020 11:07PM

I think you just admitted that it’s more about concern about trump -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 10:31PM

Yes, NBC is concerned about Trump winning re-election. ** -- JMHoo 04/07/2020 10:43PM

Paranoia it strikes deep** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:23AM

Wrong place** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:25AM

Anyone Hoo isn't is an idiot. ** -- WaxHoo 04/07/2020 11:37PM

How is not reporting chinas true numbers “getting “trump”? -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 10:51PM

Look, isn’t everyone except the Russians?!?!? ** -- ResistHoo 04/07/2020 10:47PM

Anything to do with the Russians, Chuck Taylor must be called. ** -- moohoofus 04/08/2020 07:21AM

I see the far right wing continues to beat the war drum -- Shenhoo 04/07/2020 10:27PM

The Chinese Communists are shit...Hopefully the World is realizing this ** -- Tuckahokie 04/07/2020 10:25PM

It says none were reported, not that there weren’t any ** -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 10:20PM

Exactly. ** -- JMHoo 04/07/2020 10:23PM

How would you have changed the language? -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 10:25PM

To something that praises Trump and all his glory. That really is all JM -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:08AM

*sigh*. Easy: U.S. reports 1,264 coronavirus deaths in over 24 hours. ** -- JMHoo 04/07/2020 10:27PM

They were making a point about magnitude. ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:27AM

I don’t get the vilification of China. They lie. How does that help us? -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 10:28PM

How does promoting Chinese propaganda help us either -- HoosGuy 04/08/2020 06:31AM

I said this last week -- Fuzzy Dunlop 04/08/2020 09:27AM

For starters, I think that’s false. More Americans do not believe China -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 09:52AM

They’re not promoting anything about China, except that ground zero -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 07:58AM

Again, that news should be treated with skepticism -- HoosGuy 04/08/2020 08:05AM

I don’t think anyone is giving them any credit at all. -- hoolstoptheheels 04/08/2020 08:34AM

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- Fuzzy Dunlop 04/08/2020 09:50AM

I’m not sure who is promoting Chinese propaganda. -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:32AM

I don’t believe “how does this help us?” is relevant to the original point -- HoosGuy 04/08/2020 07:49AM

Well I would say we don’t know that the reporting is wrong. -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:54AM

I agree that picking a fight with the WHO right now is imprudent -- HoosGuy 04/08/2020 08:10AM

Politico is reporting on right wing religious types pushing conflict with -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 08:12AM

Hah, that’ll never happen, at least conventionally -- HoosGuy 04/08/2020 08:16AM

Fully agree we need to think much clearer about supply chains. -- Shenhoo 04/08/2020 08:19AM

Keep watching. China vilifies itself. ** -- hoothat 04/07/2020 11:02PM

I’m no fan of the Chinese government. Again, how does that help us? ** -- Plano Hoo 04/07/2020 11:03PM

It’s all about deflecting blame from Trump ** -- 111Balz 04/08/2020 07:39AM

The truth is always helpful. ** -- hoothat 04/08/2020 12:29AM