So, I don't deal in what if's. Your attempts to diminish him defy many historians and war tacticians.

And Jefferson never did anything significant militarily or at all and I don't knock that. His contribution to America is much greater, without question. But Jackson was unquestionably a military force that not many have risen to and was revered by his men, not to mention feared and respected by anyone wearing blue. And tactically studied to this day.

And yet, Stonewall has become vilified by many, I think by you as well if I'm not mistaken, you being a historian of some claim by hobby and major, I think. That's great and all, I'm sure you've done your diligence to arrive at your bias. But most men will never measure up to this giant in battle prowess, universal respect or his own kindness, the love for him in that time and beyond is without question.

Also, thank you for your Lexington Presbytery quotes. I never claimed Jackson was antislavery when I posted my earlier post, unless I was drunk, which I wasn't. Now you are going to make me look for that particular word, I don't think I'll find it. If that is your litmus test for folks of that time and before it, I think not many pass. But that's your fantasia prerogative. I only made the statements that he taught slaves the Gospel and volunteered himself to do it but that was obviously a directive, right? And thru that, a slave befriended him that he acquired and worked to set free. I find that, along with teaching slaves to read and write, to be extraordinary in those times. He wasn't alone in those actions but he is reviled by as many as he is revered, it seems. To the victor go the spoils. Otherwise, he'd still be revered by more than not.

Jackson was a good man and a great warrior. Obviously Jefferson was a lot more complex, in progress toward the country's future, while still being tied to the time and the norms. I'll mourn the collapse of TJ's stature at UVA when it comes to pass, obviously already under assault. Just as I mourn the criminal character assassination of Robert E. Lee and Thomas Jackson.