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CMUHoo

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I mean, there's a difference between opinion and fact


I question him on that list of successes in terms of how much was really accomplished and whether those accomplishments that were sold to the public were all that they were hyped as, but if you like his policies that's your prerogative. I'll be happy to debate, but I'm not going to tell him he's wrong.

When you get to the second part, then he's just wrong. Trump isn't vilified by people on this board, the Never Trump crowd, his own former cabinet members, and other world leaders because he got things done. Nor is it because he's a crass, disgusting jerk (though that doesn't help his cause). It's the objective corruption and the actions that literally no other President in history has taken. If you claim that there are 10 elected Democrats that are just as objectionable in Washington you are wrong. You just straight up don't know what Trump has done that distinguishes him from every other politician in my lifetime and every other President in the history of this country. Because of Trump, we can no longer claim to have a continuous history of the peaceful transfer of power and accepting the results of an election. We can no longer claim that our leaders don't solicit help from foreign governments in domestic elections. I could go on. In an era when we weren't so severely polarized as we currently are, Trump would have been impeached and removed from office twice because his corrupt actions are without a doubt worse than what Nixon did.

I've had this discussion with LA Hoo before but he just chooses to ignore that side of things. I'm not sure if he's just ok with it or if he doesn't want to look too closely to see the information in front of him.

(In response to this post by Hoodafan)

Posted: 02/05/2021 at 3:46PM



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Why do so many people believe in Donald Trump? -- Fuzzy Dunlop 02/05/2021 1:49PM
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  Never say never......... -- Hoodafan 02/05/2021 2:50PM
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