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NorthernExposure

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Collusion is secret cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose. Here's what we know:

(1) Trump, his son, his son-in-law and his former campaign boss all tried to keep the emails and meeting secret for 13 months, lying repeatedly in public that no such meeting occurred, lying when seeking security clearances (which is why the FBI only found out from the NYT) and the meeting was orchestrated by a family friend with Russian contacts who suggest that Don Jr. be careful about letting daddy into the email loop so that plausible deniability might be preserved. The secrecy element is iron clad. That is evidence of one key element of collusion.

(2) Whether the secret meeting was for an illegal purpose is one of the subject of the investigation by Mueller.

(3) There is mounting evidence the meeting was for a deceitful purpose: Much of the information leaked by the Russians was false and fake and Trump, his son, his son-in-law and his top aides have spent months going to desperate lengths to cover up what happened, from firing Comey to disparaging Mueller, our intelligence agencies and the media which discovered the truth.

(In response to this post by Hokieesith)

Posted: 07/11/2017 at 4:14PM



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Short summary of today's email revelation -- Hoepner 07/11/2017 1:56PM
  "After my election I have more flexibility." ** -- Exhoolate 07/11/2017 2:48PM
  I'm still waiting to see any evidence of collusion. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 2:35PM
  Is it? -- Hokie5150 07/11/2017 4:22PM
  My opinion -- HoosGuy 07/11/2017 3:42PM
  Yes, there seem to be smoke, but no fire -- VaTechie 07/11/2017 4:45PM
  Fair enough -- VaTechie 07/11/2017 5:48PM
  Agreed. Unethical? Yep. Illegal? Unlikely. ** -- Hokie5150 07/11/2017 4:27PM
  Google is your friend, Comrade ** -- WaxHoo 07/11/2017 3:07PM
  No, it is not. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 2:59PM
  I don't need teaching. -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 3:28PM
  No thanks. I don't need help on this. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 3:11PM
  Watch this space. ** -- WaxHoo 07/11/2017 2:40PM
  Concrete? As in he entertained potential oppo research -- TomKazanski 07/11/2017 2:18PM
  You raise a valid point. I was being charitable. ** -- NorthernExposure 07/11/2017 3:51PM
  Yeah, experienced but maybe not proficient.** -- Chuck Taylor 07/11/2017 3:51PM
  We've seen enough to at least now to consider the worst. -- Chuck Taylor 07/11/2017 3:09PM
  The GOP is a failed state. Donald is its warlord. -- Shenhoo 07/11/2017 3:21PM
  Shen...here is a map of the failure -- Tuckahokie 07/11/2017 3:29PM
  Seems like a win to me, and a Hillary/Shenhoo loss. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 3:31PM
  Where did I say I won? ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 3:54PM
  Fair enough, when you -- VaTechie 07/11/2017 3:58PM
  No. I didn't win. I didn't vote. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 4:00PM
  Well, that explains it. ** -- Lazarus 07/11/2017 4:45PM
  Do you have evidence of collusion? ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 2:57PM
  Links to emails -- NorthernExposure 07/11/2017 3:47PM
  You made a whole lot of that up. ** -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 4:38PM
  +no content+ -- NorthernExposure 07/11/2017 4:11PM
  Great post, if understated. -- Shenhoo 07/11/2017 2:41PM
  Yea real factual alright -- TomKazanski 07/11/2017 2:10PM
  He is? -- Hokieesith 07/11/2017 2:31PM
  Yes, he is. ** -- WaxHoo 07/11/2017 2:39PM
  I will try again -- VaTechie 07/11/2017 2:40PM
  Never teach a pig to sing ... ** -- WaxHoo 07/11/2017 2:47PM
  Or a whore to abstain ** -- Shenhoo 07/11/2017 3:00PM
  Lol ** -- hooshouse 07/11/2017 2:18PM

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