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Fuzzy Dunlop

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Good lord, it's exhausting listening to you hammer away at this


Nothing can ever be an established fact based on your rules of language.

Sith's buddy: Trump gave a speech on my television. That is a fact.
Sith: How do we know it was Trump? Could have been an actor playing Trump. Also, how do we know it was your television? As I recall, your wife bought that television.
SB: OK, I'll add some caveats. I watched a man I believe to be Trump give a speech on a television my wife and I jointly own, although I suppose our specific joint ownership would be subject to mediation.
Sith: ON your television? Trump was sitting on your television?
SB: No, I was referring to the generally understood colloquial "on," which is widely interpreted as meaning, "The television was on, and there was a picture of Trump on it."
Sith: A man you believed to be Trump.
SB: Correct.
Sith: OK, now we are getting closer to a factual statement. But how do you know it was a speech? A speech is a formal address delivered to an audience. Could it have been a loose collection of extemporaneous words?
SB: I'm not positive it was formal. It's Trump, after all.
Sith: OK, I think the word we should be using is "remarks." So to make a factually correct statement, you should say, "A man I believed to be Trump gave some remarks, which were shown on a television jointly owned by my wife and I."
SB: I feel more comfortable with the established facts of this conversation now.
[Post edited by Fuzzy Dunlop at 10/17/2017 09:41AM]

(In response to this post by Hokieesith)

Posted: 10/17/2017 at 09:40AM



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Hillary tells a lie. Bitter about her loss. -- Hokieesith 10/16/2017 12:51PM
  What's the lie? -- DanTheFan 10/16/2017 6:14PM
  No, it doesn't. Nice try. -- DanTheFan 10/16/2017 7:31PM
  Uh, the part where he said they let him do it. -- Hokieesith 10/16/2017 7:44PM
  You mean, beyond what you've already been shown? -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/17/2017 11:06AM
  Trump never said "I sexually assaulted women." -- Hokieesith 10/17/2017 11:40AM
  I'm paraphrasing -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/17/2017 12:40PM
  He, at no time admitted to sexual assault. -- Hokieesith 10/17/2017 2:03PM
  "Stop being silly" -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/17/2017 2:59PM
  This has to be a trolling act. -- Hokieesith 10/17/2017 3:04PM
  What am I assuming? -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/17/2017 3:10PM
  Duh. That's what sex assaulters say. -- DanTheFan 10/16/2017 10:42PM
  Now this is particularly rich (link) -- Tuckahokie 10/16/2017 3:14PM
  I wonder why the Clintons are abandoning him? -- Hokieesith 10/16/2017 3:21PM
  Again, this story is all about THE CLINTONS! -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 3:30PM
  Last I checked, Trump is president -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 4:04PM
  She has to find another connected job -- ConnHoo 10/16/2017 2:42PM
  Is she liberal enough for Columbia? ** -- Tuckahokie 10/16/2017 2:48PM
  Whatever Bow Tie ** -- Tuckahokie 10/16/2017 3:26PM
  She could play on their Football Team! ** -- ConnHoo 10/16/2017 3:04PM
  You forgot biggest troll ** -- graycalhoo 10/16/2017 2:00PM
  I've never seen a loser call you a troll. ** -- VAGentleman05 10/16/2017 2:39PM
  What's to run from? You got nuthin'. ** -- WaxHoo 10/16/2017 2:14PM
  *** -- WaxHoo 10/16/2017 1:25PM
  I thought Hillary was a has-been -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 1:02PM
  I do want her to go away. She lied. Outright lied. ** -- Hokieesith 10/16/2017 1:10PM
  I'll bite. What's the lie? ** -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 1:11PM
  Never bite ** -- KCHoo 10/16/2017 1:15PM
  Not without consent anyway. ** -- Hoodafan 10/16/2017 1:59PM
  I don't see the lie there -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 1:43PM
  Well, that's differnt ** -- FfxStationHokie 10/16/2017 2:02PM
  "I don't even wait." Hmm... ** -- WahooMatt05 10/16/2017 1:47PM
  "Just talking trash" is a definite possibility -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 1:56PM
  Is she referring to the Billy Bush tapes? ** -- THECZAR 10/16/2017 1:15PM
  I'm sure she is. ** -- Hokieesith 10/16/2017 1:15PM
  Even she's viewing it from his perspective -- Fuzzy Dunlop 10/16/2017 2:02PM

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