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PalmyraHoo

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I can agree with most of this, well said.


The legislators had the best intentions to be sure, but they were a bit clueless as to the real world reception of said flawed product. Obama making over the top promises (keep your doc, keep your plan, gonna save big bucks) didn't help the public's digestion.

One big detrimental aspect of ACA often overlooked by the champions, especially those actually on a subsidized plan, is that deductibles can cripple you financially regardless of your monthly premium. As an oncologist buddy of mine stated "There are winners and there are losers". To be fair, the losers are a small minority such as self employed people in deserts like Cville making more than 70k per couple (arguably not wealthy by anyone's definition. But despite our small minority, the outrage is real because the pain is real. In my case, back and knee issues that must go unattented to due to lack of insurance. I never wish you or anyone else has to face the prospect of Advil daily until Medicare kicks in 9 years from now.

So it's like the analogy of illegal immigration. It is not an outrage for those people untouched by it's negative affects, but don't sing that same song to a person who has had a loved one killed by an illegal immigrant. Here is another analogy since it's how I roll. The heat in your fancy Arlington house is kinda sorta working. Not greatly efficient, but functional. So you call up your local HVAC guy who comes out, tinkers with it, sends you a bill and 3 days later it goes out completely. "Hey, man", you explain via the latest iPhone "it was working before now it is completely tits up". He shrugs his shoulders and says "Yo, I tried my best to fix it". At the end of the day you are still freezing your ass off and pine for the days when the uber expensive strip heat kept your fingers warm enough to post on the Sabre late into the night. Final analogy of the night (I know you are bummed). You call up your pal and bemoan your situation. You say how you "got screwed" by the guy who came to fix your heat pump. Your buddy doesn't seem very empathetic instead shrugging off your woes with the phrase "I have gas heat. Never gives me a problem".

There were lots wrong with the pre-ACA world and it was a noble goal to make an effort to revamp the health insurance industry, but it was never going to happen primarily because the big insurers would always have to make sure they were benefiting from such changes. At the end of the day, I just think it was too much to bite off and the realizations of success with a cobbled together public/private partnership were unworkable.

Oh well, time to go check on the livestock ..........


(In response to this post by WahooRQ)

Posted: 04/24/2018 at 4:19PM



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  ACA? You mean TrumpCare. -- DanTheFan 04/24/2018 1:15PM
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  I haven't changed my tune. -- DanTheFan 04/24/2018 2:24PM
  I knew a guy who was in the printed news media. -- hooshouse 04/24/2018 12:06PM
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  Loop ** -- Tuckahokie 04/24/2018 12:30PM
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  Balz's solution: Get a job at UVA -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 12:29PM
  Have we not established years ago that ... -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 12:44PM
  Why it exists it because you and your ilk passed aca -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 1:09PM
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  Yep and they have no replacement in mind. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 04/24/2018 10:59AM
  They are still mad gruber got the best of them -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 11:47AM
  I can agree with most of this, well said. -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 4:19PM
  Good summary. ** -- HoosWillWin 04/24/2018 12:40PM
  $3100/month to fix a wart? -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 12:26PM
  So you're back to the Palmyra handle now, cap? ** -- WahooRQ 04/24/2018 1:21PM
  Your schtick is so incredibly lame, cap. -- WahooRQ 04/24/2018 1:54PM
  Try living with no health insurance -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 12:32PM
  Why do you assume the GOP is my party? -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 12:48PM
  $1700 under Obama, $3100 under Trump -- PalmyraHoo 04/24/2018 1:46PM
  This ** -- WahooMatt05 04/24/2018 11:39AM
  Nope. That is 100% wrong. ** -- 111Balz 04/24/2018 11:17AM
  But.....but.....death panels! -- Freddyburg Hokie 04/24/2018 10:54AM
  Forgot about the death panels. That was a good one. ** -- HoosWillWin 04/24/2018 12:37PM
  ... and why do they want it to fail? IMO, simply because -- HoosWillWin 04/24/2018 10:53AM
  Crappy law, crappy results -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 10:48AM
  ACA appears to be a stopgap measure -- WahooMatt05 04/24/2018 10:30AM
  It was an attempt at marketplace reform -- DanTheFan 04/24/2018 10:56AM
  The ACA was a stopgap measure? -- hoothat 04/24/2018 10:39AM
  Ahh, they opted out of the compromise -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:39AM
  BTTTS ** -- 111Balz 04/24/2018 12:21PM
  Not with your script ** -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:54AM
  And? -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:03AM
  I'm curious. What about it was shit? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 04/24/2018 11:11AM
  It didn't address the problem. -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:16AM
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  Don't believe in Kings. -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:29AM
  Exactly. -- DanTheFan 04/24/2018 11:03AM
  Oh stop with the BS -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:01AM
  Huh? ** -- WahooRQ 04/24/2018 1:35PM
  My memory is fine. -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:34AM
  SMFH...That isn't compromise... ** -- hoothat 04/24/2018 11:14AM
  No, it isn't. It is obstruction for obstruction's sake. -- Chuck Taylor 04/24/2018 12:01PM
  Right, that isn't what was promised -- WahooMatt05 04/24/2018 10:45AM
  Heh. -- hoothat 04/24/2018 10:58AM
  You think this is better than before? -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 10:50AM
  ACA *may* have been better than before, without.... -- Freddyburg Hokie 04/24/2018 10:56AM
  Only the gruber army doesn’t know -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 11:45AM
  Affordable Care Act without the affordable part. ** -- SokurHoo83 04/24/2018 10:45AM
  Yea great idea, let the idiots who designed this mess -- TomKazanski 04/24/2018 10:34AM

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