Sure. And Walter Cronkite couldn't get a job if his life depended on it

I didn't bother to go past your first example due to lack of merit. -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 10:49AM

I have zero empathy for govt employees ** -- ConnHoo 01/08/2019 07:44AM

Do Chuck and Nancy show a lack of empathy for those same folks for not -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 12:20PM

That's not even a good intellectually lazy waddabout. ** -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 12:56PM

In their defense, in this particular case -- wahoo138 01/07/2019 12:53PM

That I can't disagree with. Just brought that up because it went straight -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:01PM

Tbf, I thought Obama was a rambling bore 90% of the time -- wahoo138 01/07/2019 1:23PM

True, but at least his rambling had a point and you could see where his -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:29PM

Trump personally is a fact checker's dream. All that fact checking alone -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 1:53PM

LOL! Greatest fact checker UE ever! People are saying. ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:58PM

The sooner you all abandon these false equivalencies, the better off we'll -- Hooddihsm 01/07/2019 12:34PM

It seems to be more of a case of word association than a conscious......... -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 1:00PM

So you prefer Chuck's post/lack of merit? ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:06PM

Chuck responded directly to Faz's post. Which was about media -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 1:23PM

Or dismissed it for "lack of merit" so as not to let it pierce the bubble. ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:31PM

Do you know what "lack of merit means? Did you read his post to -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 1:35PM

LOL! Says the board's most partisan of hacks. Care to point to one positive -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:48PM

Anyone else catching the irony here given Hooda's various rants over the -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 1:52PM

He also misrepresented what was said too. -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 2:06PM

Reading & understanding content slows response time ** -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 7:53PM

Yawn. Return to your whatabouts on Fox bubble and laughable claims that -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 1:56PM

Right, so if you'd like to add something halfway intelligent (although -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 2:02PM

Yawn. ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 2:06PM

I didn't think so. Be sure to add another childish "yawn" for good measure -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 2:09PM

Yep, Chuck is one of my favorites. -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 1:22PM

Don't hold your breath. he's hopeless. ** -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 12:40PM

So that's a no, you can't ever see them described that way. I agree. ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 12:37PM

Stupid deflection followed by ignorant response. That's you in a nutshell ** -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 12:41PM

Says board's most partisan hack that claims he's good at indep verification -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 12:45PM

That is not what he is proposing... ** -- hoothat 01/07/2019 11:37AM

I'm not comforted by your capability of interpreting what others say,...... -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 11:50AM

Enjoy the bubble you have wrapped yourself in. -- hoothat 01/07/2019 11:59AM

This has been an interesting and substantive thread so far. Not sure this -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 12:02PM

Why are you here? ** -- hoothat 01/07/2019 12:04PM

Then cancel your subscription to the WP and get one to the FT. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:16AM

I have the FT subscription already. Unfortunately I can't live without the -- Faz d. Hoo 01/07/2019 09:32AM

I get it. I keep the subsription to the NYT I've had for 35 years, -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:42AM

Print media has become more opinion/niche oriented by necessity. -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 10:08AM

Excellent point. Their value is more in investigative -- wahoo138 01/07/2019 11:47AM

In a nutshell its about nostalgia IMO. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:20AM

Umm... Fox creates narratives and poses as news. They know -- HoosWillWin 01/07/2019 11:38AM

They invented reporting on what their own bozo talking heads were ranting -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 11:40AM

But you can see a pretty clear simple pattern, can't you? -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 11:56AM

The difference is, they actually do it. Deliberately. I don't think there -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 12:01PM

I think there is a difference. Rachel Maddow is completely partisan. -- HoosWillWin 01/07/2019 11:59AM

You and RQ may have me at a disadvantage, because I just don't watch -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 1:26PM

Their various tactics have been known and written about for a long time. -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 1:49PM

I get it. However, the difference is blatant lying versus spin. I condemn -- HoosWillWin 01/07/2019 1:32PM

Largely agree, although I don't think Faux News and the WaPo are even -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 11:11AM

I once had more of less your view of FOX. Which I do think comes down to -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 11:23AM

You conveniently ignore one important fact. -- ResistHoo 01/07/2019 11:59AM

Sure, but alternative facts are not facts. My problem with Fox isn't that -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 11:29AM

I will on occasion watch the NBC news at 6:30 with Lester Holt...I get the -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 10:24AM

Same. And Hallie Jackson at 6:33** -- jackethoo 01/07/2019 10:54AM

There is a pretty wide variety of options. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:27AM

See yellow journalism. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/07/2019 09:23AM

Those wording choices do seem egregious in comparison with tens of -- RickPerry 01/07/2019 08:45AM

IIRC the gray lady clutched her pearls for weeks before deciding it was OK -- southdenverhoo 01/07/2019 12:17PM

Correct. -- Chuck Taylor 01/07/2019 1:30PM

Apples and oranges. If you are complaining about a lack of bias in the -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:03AM

Furthermore don't bitch about people ignoring "facts" when the people that -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 09:20AM

I totally disagree with that. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:38AM

There's a reason i put facts in quotations -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 10:02AM

Yeah, probably. I wasn't there obviously but when something becomes -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:11AM

You dodged my question. My point is people believe all sorts of stuff -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 11:00AM

I didn't mean to dodge it. In fact I largely agree with that. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 11:28AM

Except you and others take that as license to ignore facts that you don't -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:22AM

The same guy that throws babyish tantrums when he gets cornered in a debate -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 09:38AM

That's a really stupid post. But it is what you resort to often -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:48AM

The dude is great for reinforcing our negative stereotypes of hoakies -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 09:59AM

....and you do a fine job of upholding the snooty hoover image ** -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 10:03AM

What is a "snooty hoover"? ** -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 11:13AM

^^^^^^ :>) ** -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 11:20AM

You forgot to bring up Rolling Stone, an essential play in the moron play- -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 09:40AM

Well if anyone knows the moron playbook ... ** -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 09:44AM

I know, man, if anyone it’s you! Hence my disappointment. ** -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 09:57AM

This individual is the ultimate judge of who is a moron (link) -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 09:56AM

"Doug was looking for a better place to jump from, while he slipped" -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 10:32AM

Doug Kenney ...the guy that shaped an entire generation of comedy ** -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 10:17AM

Weird post, Faz. Hard to even tell what you’re complaining about. -- WahooRQ 01/07/2019 08:34AM

Tough to find truly neutral reporting ** -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 08:31AM

And it always has been. But compared to the pre-Internet world, bias -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 08:59AM

Maybe...but if you look at a commentator like Walter Cronkite it was -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 09:07AM

Sure. And Walter Cronkite couldn't get a job if his life depended on it -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:28AM

Like I said...tough to find truly neutral reporting ** -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 09:32AM

Which doesn't mean you can't. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 09:52AM

Tough does not mean impossible. PBS Newshour is fairly close to neutral, -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 10:02AM

They are absolutely a minority. By definition. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:25AM

A great post summarizing the state of intellectual curiosity these days -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 10:10AM

I do think that is a widespread problem. I'm sure you and I are guilty of -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:30AM

Well there certainly are "sources" that I assume are lying to everyone -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 10:35AM

LOLPOTY! ** -- Hoodafan 01/07/2019 11:25AM

I'm sure sometimes I do it better than others. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 10:45AM

Fox is IMO unreliable because by definition they DO deliberately -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 11:02AM

I don't believe that is universally true. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 11:42AM

If I lie some of the time, I don't have to lie all of the time to be -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 12:24PM

That's true. By which standard they are all liars, I think. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2019 1:32PM

Balz...why so combative all the time? Relax a bit...your being -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 10:16AM

I am addressing something very specific that you said. This is a message -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 10:29AM

Yup. You lost it. ** -- hoothat 01/07/2019 11:28AM

No. It's not. You just don't like what is being reported, so you dismiss -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:49AM

The key is still to separate news reporting from opinion writing ** -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:20AM

My original assertion stands...tough to find truly neutral news reporting ** -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 09:22AM

How do you define neutral? Often the objective truth is NOT neutral -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:26AM

I would define it as neutral when the reader cannot determine the political -- Tuckahokie 01/07/2019 09:30AM

Well, the problem is with that "perceivable bias.", because far too many -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 09:47AM

But that is not what I'm complaining about. -- Faz d. Hoo 01/07/2019 11:30AM

With all due respect, I agree with your statement, I just don't agree -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 11:41AM

Ric's WRVA was bought by Bloomberg and now the news readers are dropping -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 08:23AM

I agree with below - you must have linked the wrong article; the one -- 111Balz 01/07/2019 06:58AM

In your opinion is it "biased" to point out when he lies? -- Hoocinogenic 01/07/2019 04:01AM

It is not difficult to approach these situations in a dispassionate way -- Faz d. Hoo 01/07/2019 09:05AM

They should report what she said and then get somebody of expertise to go -- CharlestonSC 01/07/2019 08:33AM

Should stump speech bluster and bullshit count as a lie in this regard? ** -- HokieDan95 01/07/2019 08:15AM

This is how they make money. We have too much media. It’s like WWE now. -- Hokieesith 01/07/2019 12:03AM

Yes, we should just go with whatever official outlets say -- RickPerry 01/07/2019 08:40AM

I think you linked the wrong article unless they changed the headline. And -- hooyorkcity 01/06/2019 11:09PM

With the WP, headlines and article bodies are fluid things -- Faz d. Hoo 01/07/2019 09:15AM

The online version can add hyperlinks to sources unlike the print version -- hooyorkcity 01/07/2019 10:53AM

Woosh... ** -- hoothat 01/06/2019 11:17PM

Yup. Propaganda. ** -- hoothat 01/06/2019 10:41PM

Ha ha - you're just pissed because our guys have the inside position. -- ResistHoo 01/06/2019 10:38PM

Nope, that's the liberal mission -- Faz d. Hoo 01/07/2019 08:59AM

He’s a troll faz, wouldn’t waste your time. ** -- hooyorkcity 01/07/2019 11:26AM

Sure. And Walter Cronkite couldn't get a job if his life depended on it

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