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As long as -- rd280z 03/20/2019 12:23PM Not easy to anticipate all of the consequences -- Capital City Hoo 03/20/2019 10:39AM And don't forget overturning Citizens United. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 03/20/2019 11:39AM No, if you do just as well do away with states. The electoral college & 2 -- ESHooFan 03/20/2019 10:35AM Depends on whether you think a majority vote is the "will of the people" or -- Chuck Taylor 03/20/2019 08:52AM Good luck with getting the less populated States to agree to amend the -- Tuckahokie 03/20/2019 08:49AM Constitution does not enumerate how electoral votes are allocated. Two -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 09:19AM A few years ago there was talk in PA about awarding electors on a -- 81_Hokie 03/20/2019 09:58AM Easier said than done. Candidates need to concentrate on the right combo -- Lupos 03/20/2019 08:47AM It's a desperate act by a desperate party that is desperate to regain power -- Hoodafan 03/20/2019 08:41AM I’d say the Supreme Court appointing W was rather desperate...no! I will -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 09:28AM Exactly - I bet the Supreme Court was hacked by the Russians! -- ResistHoo 03/20/2019 10:08AM Well W definitely didn’t win fair and square. I mean really the POTUS was -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 10:14AM Definitely!!! All of the post election analysis said Enviro Al won big. ** -- ResistHoo 03/20/2019 10:57AM That’s because you’re an ignorant buffoon, but carry on. ** -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 09:05AM Deep and thoughtful post as always. Your derangement is showing little man. ** -- Hoodafan 03/20/2019 10:23AM Sad thing is, you probably thought that rambling train wreck of -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 10:30AM Yawn. ** -- Hoodafan 03/20/2019 10:34AM The millions of voters whose vote did not count would disagree with you ** -- 111Balz 03/20/2019 08:55AM Like mine here in VA? ** -- Hoodafan 03/20/2019 10:25AM Why would you ask that question? Why didn't your vote count? ** -- 111Balz 03/20/2019 10:37AM 50% of the country will live in 8 states in 20 years. -- WahooMatt05 03/20/2019 08:36AM So you're talking changing the senate? If 50% of the country will live -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 08:45AM Nope. Each state gets one elector per senator and one per House member. So -- southdenverhoo 03/20/2019 08:58AM Fair enough, but I think the population growth makes the EC -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 09:21AM I don’t think you are; I think the structural lean in favor of the less -- southdenverhoo 03/20/2019 09:37AM The Senate is already tilted towards rural voters -- WahooMatt05 03/20/2019 08:48AM Right, but I don't understand your point on 50% of the country living in 8 -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 09:12AM Easy: you already have up to 6 million Republican votes in CA and 4 mill -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 09:35AM Right, but if CA and Texas get more people and thus more votes, -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 09:37AM But they’re still 3 out of 538, their absolute worth stays constant -- southdenverhoo 03/20/2019 09:41AM OK, yeah I guess the way I was thinking about it would require -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 09:46AM Even if it did, winner take all state-by-state would still be an issue. -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 09:47AM Yeah, I never disputed that was an issue. But I didn't realize (never -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 10:41AM It has varied from the popular vote in 2 of the last 5 elections. End it. ** -- WahooMatt05 03/20/2019 08:19AM When the Constitution was written, the greatest population -- HoosWillWin 03/20/2019 07:06AM It meant millions of votes in the last presidential election essentially -- 111Balz 03/20/2019 08:00AM Representation needs to reflect citizens not people -- TomKazanski 03/20/2019 03:34AM Thats funny b/c the EC was a way for the South to include Non-Citizens in -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 07:48AM This brings up an OT point which means a lot to me. The northern states -- southdenverhoo 03/20/2019 09:47AM Tommy just got owned like his great grampappy’s workforce. ** -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 08:52AM He's mostly just pissed that that those people count as full voters today. ** -- 111Balz 03/20/2019 08:02AM Highly doubt you’d be calling it a stroke of genius had it benefited the -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 07:13AM For once I agree with you... it should reflect citizens, not states. The -- 81_Hokie 03/20/2019 06:42AM Absolutely! We wouldn't be dealing with the orange asshole if it was. ** -- bballbill 03/20/2019 12:47AM Lol. Thanks. Your post will even be funnier in the future. ** -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:54AM LOL!! Yours is hysterical in the now ** -- WaxHoo 03/20/2019 07:40AM Generally I think not. However, I think it is worthwhile to have a -- Seattle .Hoo 03/19/2019 11:16PM States have different interests. For example, central states are concerned -- Hoo05Dave 03/20/2019 12:35AM Maybe. I think the debate is worth having, fundamentally about what our -- Seattle .Hoo 03/20/2019 11:32AM I fear their plan is to go more extreme... ** -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:43AM I see no reason to change the Senate - it acts as intended -- RML Hoos 03/20/2019 12:21AM I agree, but that decision is still the state's ** -- Hoo05Dave 03/20/2019 12:43AM ...Senators are supposed to represent the state and be the check/balance -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:07AM So what? Perhaps it should the the Senate's purpose now, especially since -- Seattle .Hoo 03/20/2019 11:23AM One of the two systems should be changed. I posted an article addressing -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 11:57PM It isn't useless, you just don't like it. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:20AM Deep. ** -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:24AM Not much to say, you didn't leave much room for anyrhing else -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:31AM Using words you don't understand again -- Hoodeac 03/20/2019 08:29AM And Trump is doing that? -- hoothat 03/20/2019 10:10AM Dude, you're spiraling -- Hoodeac 03/20/2019 10:43AM Dude, you're clueless. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 10:47AM I think that would be disastrous to states... ** -- hoothat 03/19/2019 11:26PM Thankfully, nobody cares what you think. ** -- Hooddihsm 03/20/2019 09:07AM Translation - disastrous to Trumpublicans ** -- Hoodeac 03/19/2019 11:53PM No, to States... -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:03AM It could stand a reapportionment -- Beerman 03/19/2019 10:31PM Reapportionment if anything. Ditching it is hasty, and not happening -- hoodeyo 03/19/2019 10:55PM No need to do that. Each state just needs to adopt proportional electors so -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/19/2019 10:17PM Every state counts the way it is set up... -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:09AM I think you could argue both ways though. In a strange sort of way, -- BocaHoo91 03/20/2019 07:15AM How so? ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 07:09AM No. Each state needs to pledge to give vote to overall popular winner. -- DanTheFan 03/19/2019 10:31PM Lol, look at you correcting him back to the party line... ** -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:56AM Yes. It is a relic.** -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 9:23PM Absolutely. -- DanTheFan 03/19/2019 10:41PM Archaic? Cool talking point -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:18AM Lol. It is not. It keeps this country from being ruled by Cities... ** -- hoothat 03/19/2019 9:25PM That was not the original purpose of the Electoral college. -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 9:52PM So, what I said. The Masses...the Cities. -- hoothat 03/19/2019 10:00PM No. The "masses" refers to direct election by the people. Has nothing to -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 10:04PM Electoral votes are still proportional by state. -- hoodeyo 03/19/2019 10:19PM No, it's not proportional by state. There have been several articles -- Late 80s Hokie 03/20/2019 09:25AM ...No shit. Direct election is fucking stupid. -- hoothat 03/19/2019 10:16PM If we’re going to have a populist president then shouldn’t it be the -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 10:12AM But the EC is a mere formality now, so thats basically what we have. -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 10:39PM The problem with it is the state-by-state “winner take all” nature of it. -- WahooRQ 03/19/2019 11:06PM There are proportioned electors by state... -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:14AM Census has nothing to do with the two senators in each state as designed. T ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 10:02AM Lol...no shit? ** -- hoothat 03/20/2019 10:19AM Actually senate and senators full of lots o shit. Totally undemocratic -- Hooooooooooooooo 03/20/2019 10:29AM You would haye my views then... -- hoothat 03/20/2019 10:32AM Proportioned meaning if you get 1/3 of the vote in Cali you get 18 EVs -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 12:37AM So the House isn't proportioned by state, you fucking idiot? -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:40AM I’ll let you carry on with your drunken late night rager. Goodnight, loser ** -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 12:42AM Look at the time...You're projecting again, loser.** -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:44AM Roughly proportioned. Every state get 2 for senators, then 1 for each rep. -- RML Hoos 03/20/2019 12:34AM That, I can agree with. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:36AM Electors do not, generally, go off the reservation -- Beerman 03/19/2019 10:30PM And yet, Trump is President... ** -- hoothat 03/19/2019 11:27PM Circles beget circles -- Beerman 03/19/2019 11:28PM It ends up protecting smaller states with less voice. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:01AM It does -- Beerman 03/20/2019 07:01AM Thats why we have the Senate and no need for the EC. -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:08AM No it doesn't. It forces you to find a coalition. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:13AM I'd say 60 million+ people counts as a coalition. ** -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:30AM Basically what you are saying is... -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:33AM "Cities" aren't a single entity. They are different from each other and -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:45AM And in any given city, more people live in the surrounding suburbs, exurbs -- WahooRQ 03/20/2019 09:03AM No, you just have to address Urban problems. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:47AM There are proponents of that on this board, yes...** -- hoothat 03/19/2019 9:20PM I’m still amazed how smart our founding fathers were. -- MBHoo 03/19/2019 9:48PM Thy were smart, but for the opposite reason you assume. -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 10:00PM What would Hamilton think if he knew the average voter spent more time -- MBHoo 03/19/2019 10:11PM They might suggest using the EC as it was intended instead of it being a -- Hoocinogenic 03/19/2019 10:27PM The fact that you believe that propaganda -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:24AM To what propaganda are you referring? ** -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:32AM You're right, Trump can't read. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:34AM He can't spell either, probably why you admire him so much. ** -- Hoocinogenic 03/20/2019 12:50AM Admire? I didn't even vote for him. -- hoothat 03/20/2019 12:53AM It’s so ironic that “knowledge” is more readily available -- MBHoo 03/19/2019 11:38PM X** -- MBHoo 03/19/2019 11:38PM X** -- MBHoo 03/19/2019 11:38PM