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To give you the benefit of doubt

1) Do you believe there was Russian interference?

2) Do you believe Russia wanted Trump to win?

3) Do you believe Russian interference made Trump win?

I believe one and two. With two, I also believe they played both sides to get this nation polarized.

On three, I suspect the Comey revelation of new emails hurt Hillary way more than Russia.

On three, I only have one instance. My 92 year hard core republican dad who has never voted Democrat in a presidential election would not vote for Trump. I am more liberal than he, and we were able to talk politics each Sunday I called him. We were both considering third parties. We came to the same conclusion about the third party candidates, but I was going to vote for Hillary because I just disliked Trump just like he did. He also called Trump a Democrat (ROFLOL). Dad was not going to vote on the presidential ticket but all the other ticket items all the way up to the Sunday before Comey email statement. The Sunday after Comey he was voting for Trump and did.

Dad and Mom believe all of their 8 kids once adults should make their own independent decisions even if they disagreed. They would never give you unsolicited advice on anything once an adult, but always be there if you wanted advice. They never told you what you wanted to hear. If it was not what you wanted to hear, they always accepted your different point of view.

RIP to the greatest dad and mother I could ever ask for

[Post edited by VaTechie at 05/29/2020 09:57AM]

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Posted: 05/29/2020 at 09:55AM

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