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"Increasing COVID-19 caseloads were associated with countries with higher obesity (adjusted rate ratio [RR]=1.06; 95%CI: 1.01–1.11), median population age (RR=1.10; 95%CI: 1.05–1.15) and longer time to border closures from the first reported case (RR=1.04; 95%CI: 1.01–1.08). Increased mortality per million was significantly associated with higher obesity prevalence (RR=1.12; 95%CI: 1.06–1.19) and per capita gross domestic product (GDP) (RR=1.03; 95%CI: 1.00–1.06). Reduced income dispersion reduced mortality (RR=0.88; 95%CI: 0.83–0.93) and the number of critical cases (RR=0.92; 95% CI: 0.87–0.97). Rapid border closures, full lockdowns, and wide-spread testing were not associated with COVID-19 mortality per million people. However, full lockdowns (RR=2.47: 95%CI: 1.08–5.64) and reduced country vulnerability to biological threats (i.e. high scores on the global health security scale for risk environment) (RR=1.55; 95%CI: 1.13–2.12) were significantly associated with increased patient recovery rates."

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Posted: 07/22/2020 at 1:55PM

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Well this is going to cause some confusion... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 1:55PM

Translation: Americans are too fat ** -- Oregon Hoo 07/22/2020 2:37PM

I'm just rocking the dad bod! Can't we just identify as a skinny person? ** -- Hoodafan 07/22/2020 3:49PM

If you raise the average, it makes everyone else relatively healthier! ** -- Beerman 07/22/2020 3:51PM

Skipper on Gilligan's Island was yoooge! -- Hoodafan 07/22/2020 3:58PM

Oh, Snap. I'm fat! ** -- jdubforwahoowa 07/22/2020 4:00PM

Nah, you're just shapely :) ** -- Oregon Hoo 07/22/2020 7:13PM

Skipperesque. ** -- Hoodafan 07/22/2020 4:04PM

WALL-E showed us where we’re heading. ** -- WahooMatt05 07/22/2020 2:49PM

Big Gulps n’ scooters for everybody! ** -- TomGlansAski 07/22/2020 3:11PM

TRUE. A visit to Disney World is truly shocking ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 2:42PM

Water Country USA...fat people in swimwear ** -- Tuckahokie 07/22/2020 3:51PM

The scooter armada is vast, aggressive and unrelenting** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:53PM

How so? ** -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 2:01PM

And in addition to the comments below if you read into the analysis you fin -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 2:21PM

One tidbit... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 2:11PM

You are directly contradicting yourself in this thread. -- 00 Hoo 07/22/2020 4:33PM

What's the confusion there? -- Beerman 07/22/2020 2:17PM

So they don't save lives? -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 2:59PM

Sure they do -- Beerman 07/22/2020 3:06PM

The deaths/million is what is referred to. Our rate is not... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:14PM

It is curious -- Beerman 07/22/2020 3:50PM

Our mortality/rate per million is middle of the pack... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:53PM

No it’s not. Per the other link below, only seven nations have higher rates -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:02PM

I still think you're focusing on the wrong metric. Even if we did -- BocaHoo91 07/22/2020 5:04PM

I agree 100% and that’s the rabbit hole I reference below. -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 5:24PM

See my other post... ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:05PM

I saw it. Why don’t you admit middle of the pack is untrue? ** -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:06PM

For westernized complex democracies like us with our heterogeneity? -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:09PM

Well I compared us to the 144 nations who have had at least 1000 cases. -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:15PM

So ... American Averageism then? -- Beerman 07/22/2020 3:57PM

You are correct! ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:01PM

We? You on own, Kemosabe. -- jdubforwahoowa 07/22/2020 3:58PM

I am bringing the average down, TYVM -- Beerman 07/22/2020 4:14PM

I am no small cookie, but no flaps anywhere on my body. -- jdubforwahoowa 07/22/2020 4:16PM

Trump screwed the pooch big time. Quit try to rationalize -- SixerHoo 07/22/2020 3:42PM

What metric would you use? Looks like an average result thus far ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:48PM

The metric I use is how we’re doing compared to other developed -- SixerHoo 07/22/2020 4:44PM

Stop fucking up their narrative. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 07/22/2020 3:49PM

Except that’s not true ** -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:04PM

Fully aware. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 07/22/2020 4:13PM

And I certainly hope that last post was still not based on the study you li -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 3:41PM

Balz, check this site...same place that provide state level data... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:49PM

Much better data, & of the 144 countries have had at least 1000 cases, onl -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:01PM

We are much more complex compared to almost all of them... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:04PM

Whatever. In multiple places you said our rate is average. -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:06PM

I have been clear on this. Wouldn't you want apples to apples to judge? ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:10PM

Respectfully let’s revisit what you’ve been clear about. You started this s -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:20PM

Come on...you are missing the point intentionally...` -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:26PM

I can’t believe I let you drag me down this rabbit hole -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:33PM

I offered comparables and you offer general statements of disagreement -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:35PM

You cherry picked. To support your case ** -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 4:49PM

All of those countries are at the end of their curves, first wave curves at -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 3:37PM

Our outcome is middle of the pack (not surprising)... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 3:51PM

He appears to be conflating the two, either deliberately or mistakenly -- SixerHoo 07/22/2020 2:21PM

The date set used in this analysis was through April 1 ** -- 111Balz 07/22/2020 2:23PM

It's tough to take the poster seriously in regards to COViD-19. -- Blah 07/22/2020 2:35PM

Care to offer any specifics re HCQ? It's safe and it has been shown... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 2:50PM

You were promoting it as a prophylactic on the main board! -- Blah 07/22/2020 4:30PM

Only under Dr.'s care... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 4:33PM

Or check this too... -- HiltonHeadHoo 07/22/2020 2:53PM

Why are you publishing an article on HCQ on COVID-19 from 2 months ago? -- Blah 07/22/2020 4:42PM

Figures. ** -- SixerHoo 07/22/2020 2:23PM

No, because mortality rates correlate with demographics and population -- SixerHoo 07/22/2020 2:17PM