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Maybe so, but what we're seeing now isn't censorship

If someone is a chronic liar, inciting violence, people will eventually turn their backs. I'm shocked its been so hard for 40% of the country to figure that out and its shameful that so many corporations road the "Trump Train" until almost the very end. Were the clicks, temporary (and irresponsible) tax cuts and attacks on the environment worth your principles?

In spite of what the media and elected officials of the snowflake crybaby party say, these are true statements:

- Private companies not allowing liars, bigots and conspiracy theory propagators to spew their nonsense on their platforms isn't censorship.

- Media companies can flag / delete lies

- Fact-free conspiracy theories don't warrant "equal time"

- Choosing to not donate to a campaign or PAC isn't censorship

- Wearing a mask isn't censorship

- Not being allowed to carry a gun to the office isn't censorship

- Not wasting resources and disrupting democracy to investigate or litigate baseless allegations isn't censorship

- Calling a moron a moron isn't censorship

- Refusing to do business with a piece of shit isn't censorship

- Not being an evangelical Christian theocracy isn't censorship (shockingly, some of us don't believe Moses raised dinosaurs 6,000 years ago)

I don't support censorship either. But if the GOP snowflakes really cared about the 1A and censorship they should hold themselves to any reasonable / responsible standard in their discourse. Creating a problem, then bitching about a solution that isn't being proposed or enacted, is disingenuous victim behavior and the right does this every day.

[Post edited by Bacon at 01/15/2021 08:01AM]

(In response to this post by RML Hoos)

Posted: 01/15/2021 at 07:55AM

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